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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2007, 11:53:31 pm »
  The similarity between the reproductive structures and the odd-pinnate, smooth, elliptical leaflets are almost identical.  What do you think?

I think you are bang on right.  Good job ;D.

Now on to number 5 ??? :P :P :-\.
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2007, 01:44:47 pm »
That will be the tough one.  I don't even know what family to start with. :P :P :-\  A picture of the fruit or flower would be most helpful.
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2007, 01:57:05 pm »
Details, details, details.  It is always in the details, isn't it ???.
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2007, 07:20:54 pm »
Ok, I took some more photos of plant number 5 and it has started to flower. Really different the way it sends a shoot up from the base of the plant. At least it seems different to me. :D   Maybe this will be enough to help?

By the way, thanks for the help. It was pretty cool going around my property this last few days knowing that "Thats a sensitive fern" and "that one is a Royal fern" and so on. :)


 Wild Sarsaparilla


 

 

 
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2007, 07:38:41 pm »
Looks like Wild Sarsaparilla (Aralia nudicaulis)
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2007, 07:40:19 pm »
Thats IT!! 8)
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2007, 07:45:21 pm »
http://www.rook.org/earl/bwca/nature/herbs/aralianud.html


Its mentioned in this link that it is a plant like no other. I guess thats why I've never seen anything like it. :)
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2007, 07:47:55 pm »
What's it going to take to mix some up, jeff?
You got a recipe?
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2007, 07:55:36 pm »
Nope, do you? :)
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2007, 08:07:51 pm »
not yet.   Looks like we'll have to do some reading.
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2007, 08:41:05 pm »
Aralia nudicaulis.  OK.  Never seen it.  We have Aralia spinosa down here.  Devil's Walking Stick.  Fruiting structure looks familar. 

Good going, Ron ;).
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« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2007, 09:03:39 pm »
That's what I thought it was when I asked if it had a flower. It's a member of the Ginseng family and species group Viburnum. It's habitat is usually medium dry to wet oak and hardwood forests. It's usually an indicator species of these ecosystems.
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2007, 09:16:58 pm »
And I'm finding recipes that indicate testosterone related ailments, syphilis, root beer and bunches of other stuff.  Sounds like a cure-all.  :D
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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2007, 09:22:49 pm »
Your right, it is a cure all. Start chewing some roots. Put em in the Kiln. :D

http://herb.umd.umich.edu/herb/search.pl?searchstring=Aralia+nudicaulis
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2007, 07:12:05 pm »
Some of these coming up I now know, some I don't know for sure, so I'll give some initials to see if I am right or close as you guys get them.  :)

Bunchberry
 

Star Flower



Blue Bead Lilly



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Re: Help with plants on my property
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2007, 08:21:30 pm »
Carla figures the first one is Bunch berry(cornus canadensis)
Third one looks like Queens Cup(clintonia Uniflora) they grow a single Blue,berry and she's still looking for the second although her first guess was Star Flower (Trientalis latifolia)
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2007, 08:24:07 pm »
Sounds like you got em from what I know.  The one you call queens cup I think is Clintonia borealis or Blue Bead Lily.
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« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2007, 07:01:36 pm »
Ok, late again here. ;D

#1 sensitive fern Onoclea sensibilis typical on wet soils

#2 lady fern Athyrium filix-femina typical on very moist soil with periodic (fluctuating with seasons) high water table.

#3 same as # 2.  Brachen is multi branched and shade intolerant. It would grow on fire ground, plantations, new cutovers, trails, sizable stand openings. It's carcinogenic to other plants and animals. Shape drawing below. On well drained soil and sandy loams.

#4 Looks like oak fern, but the picture is not well focused. Gymnocarpium dryopteris

# 5 wild sarsaparilla Aralia nudicaulis very common plant here on many site types. Usually well drained soil. If it's under cedar canopy it's typically on site associated with gold thread Coptis trifolia (roots and rhyzomes are yellow)and balsam fir. You might find spikenard, Aralia racemosa species on moist, rich mixed woods. Has a spike with red fruit. Gets to be quite big, think of it as a super sized sarsaparilla. :D

If you have a bit of a rocky hillside with seepages, and sparse veg. you may find sword fern or Christmas fern, which are more evergreen (don't die in the cold). The frons lie close to the ground, probably because of the snow back in winter. A real good fern for old growth moist, rich, deep loamed soil, tolerant hardwood of sugar maple, beech, ash, yellow birch, butternut, basswood cover is northern maiden-hair fern Adiantum pedatum. Usually near ephemeral pools or depressions under full canopy. Some places it's not real common, so it's a nice find.

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« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2007, 07:05:18 pm »
Oh, and the brachen sketch.  ;D


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« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2007, 07:27:15 pm »
Yup, I see you got # 1 and #3 of your second batch of photos. But your overlooking some other cool plants under your nose.


Beside the bunch berry is a nice little dwarf raspberry Rubus pubescens

Your #2 is a star flower Trientalis borealis and right under neath is, that trilobed, waxy leaf is the gold thread I talked about above. Those and your dwarf raspberry are indicators of our Vegetation Type 9 with bF, rS and Ce (balsam fir-red spruce-cedar). Pretty nice, money making softwood forest in my region ( ;D 60 cord/acre type stuff  ;D).  smiley_thumbsup No wonder ya got some big diameter cedars in there.  ;D

It must be the goldthread, plant all ya can.  ;D :D :D :D

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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