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Simply pinnate.
« on: June 17, 2007, 06:00:32 pm »
 

I've been trying to figure out what that plant is in the pot. 
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 06:16:09 pm »
Looks kinda like Hickory, wild pecan or mountain ash.  Whut kind o' varmit is that?  ::)
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 06:24:59 pm »
That's the kinda varmint that would knock the plant over , bust the pot , dig out the rootball, sniff at it and walk away - iffn he could still walk.

Nice job  ;)

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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 08:03:36 pm »
Looks like black ash to me Fraxinus nigra because of the 9 sessile (no petiolules/stems) leaflets. I can't see if they are serrate. Could also fit bitternut hickory Carya cordiformis. This is what is going to make it interesting for me to find and distinguish seedlings coming up from those seed I planted. Hmmm, are they black ash or bitternut?  :D :D :D  8)


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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 08:34:35 pm »
I'm puttin' all of my money on pecan.  There's no mountain-ash or black ash in Tom's area, so those are unlikely choices.  Bitternut hickory is a definite possibility, as well as water hickory, but I've never known anyone to plant either of those on purpose...so pecan it is!

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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2007, 08:51:10 pm »
It's a bythedeadbearus nigra
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2007, 08:53:05 pm »
I really shouldn't say much,but I feel like a little   smiley_devil tonight.Where's jeff?He could tell you what that tree is.But he might have a hard time with the black object in front.I won't say what it is,don't want to give it away.   ;D ;D
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2007, 08:55:21 pm »
Who said either the tree or the barr was in Tom's area?  ;D  ;)

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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2007, 09:13:29 pm »
Well, it's obviously impossible to conclusively ID that little plant from the photo alone, so I'm just making some unfounded assumptions to narrow my list down to a single species.  I know how you like that shotgun approach, though ;D.

How about this:  I don't think it's a mountain-ash because the lower leaflets are smaller than the upper leaflets.  Mountain-ashes tend to have leaflets that are more or less equal in size.  And I don't think it's black ash because the leaves appear to be alternate :).
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2007, 09:38:46 pm »
On first blush it looks like a black walnut to me (wit a black bear)
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2007, 10:28:49 pm »
This plant Id stuff is tough!!

 
.... and this one is turning out to be a real bear.

I've studied it and studied it and.....
 
You can see the way that the leaves are connected in this shot.  I don't think that the yellow flowers are part of it but the big green leaf might be a shadow leaf or not. :P :-\

I think that must be a bear spot in the background.
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2007, 10:36:25 pm »
It'll be a while before this one is identified. :D
 
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2007, 11:14:36 pm »
It's a pecan tree from Walmart?
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2007, 12:03:54 am »
I really shouldn't say much,but I feel like a little   smiley_devil tonight.Where's jeff?He could tell you what that tree is.But he might have a hard time with the black object in front.I won't say what it is,don't want to give it away.   ;D ;D

Ha ha ha I do so know. Thats Paul and a Black Squirrel that tried to make off with his walnuts.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2007, 12:31:58 am »
 ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2007, 05:17:34 am »
Something ain't cosher here. My black walnuts have 17 - 21 leaflets and the petioles at the base and the tip are smaller than the ones (petioles) mid way up. But who said it was black walnut? :D :D Typically, larger petioles on the tip are hickories. But they are in the same family as walnut.  ;D

Not mountain ash because they are twice compound, where the petioles are also compound.

Tom, ya got hood winked at Wal-Mart. Take it back man. ;D :D

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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2007, 08:25:30 am »
Well, shucks, TOM.  You've discovered our secret.

For tree ID, real foresters look at the tag   ;D

Notice that the alleopathic ability of that walnut killed the bear......
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2007, 09:55:32 am »
What bear? ???
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2007, 10:16:04 am »
Doesn't Jeff get any kind of prize for IDing that Varmit as Paul?  :D :D :D
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Re: Simply pinnate.
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2007, 10:21:01 am »
Tom, your getting as dodgy as your coherts.  8)  ;D

Tom, you have to watch the company you keep :).

Must be English Walnut (Juglans regia) or some other variety..  In Black Walnut (Juglans nigra), the terminal leaflet usually aborts.......... ;)

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