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The fun never ends: Solved, Carolina Buckthorn
« on: June 13, 2007, 02:09:26 pm »
The last plant ID challenge was so much fun, I couldn't let it end there. 8)  So here's a new one for ya.  Good luck!

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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 02:18:24 pm »
RATS!  I get first crack at something and DonT know what it is. :-\  Nothing there for size perspective, but it looks like a large shrub my Grandma had in the back yard.  Can't remember what she called it, though.  Euonymous(sp) perhaps?
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 02:21:19 pm »
The leaves are definitely similar to some euonymus species, but I'm afraid that's not it.  It's hard to tell in this picture, but the leaves are alternate.  Euonymus leaves are opposite.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 02:28:22 pm »
Ya mean I was even close? 8) 8)  I woulda really looked smart if I had guessed right, wooden eye? :D :D :D
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2007, 02:36:53 pm »
You already look smart!  That's the face of a intellectual if I've ever seen one ;D ;D ;D.  And handsome, too!
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2007, 02:47:08 pm »
It's amazing what an expert like Tom can do with computer graphics, ain't it? :D :D
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2007, 02:50:31 pm »
I got one of them in may yard too :D

but I only can think of my rhododendron which we know aint right drawing a brain freeze

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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2007, 03:39:19 pm »
The lateral veins on this one are much more prominent than Rhododendron.  It's not evergreen, either, although it does hold onto its foliage well into winter.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 06:38:38 pm »
Can't tell much from the fruit in the photo. But, it sure looks like a relative to the figs. Ficus My question is whether the fruit are capsules or fleshy fruit.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 06:43:26 pm »
Fleshy fruit, drupes to be exact.  They won't ripen until this fall, at which time they will turn from bright red into a lustrous black.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 11:49:25 pm »
Want to give any clues, WDH?  Surely I haven't stumped you ;).
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2007, 12:41:03 am »
I am feeling a little stumped........... ::).  Those leaf tips are strongly acuminate.......Those black drupes are quite suggestive..........hmmmmm.........I have a theory............It feels swampy to me.  I am wondering if the pith is diaphragmed?
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 01:19:22 am »
I know what you're thinking, but I'm afraid that's a negatory.  This is a mesic-site dweller - usually a large, single-stemmed shrub, but occasionally reaching small tree size.  Two key features that didn't come out clearly in the photo are the finely serrated margins and the arcuate veins (ie, the lateral veins point towards the tip of the leaf at the edges of the leaf).  Oh, and the pith is solid.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 05:30:46 am »
Well I just realized that your user name is made of from letters in the word dendrology. I realized this after reading your avatar signature. I often times am not in the know, so you may have already announced this.  :D :D

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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 08:41:34 am »
If we can't figure out what his name means, how are we supposed to figure out the plants he posts ??? ::).
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2007, 08:51:01 am »
A-HA  smiley_idea!  Looked at subject plant again and the bell rung ;D.  Fleshy drupes, huh....Shrub...Arcuate veination...I bet the leaf color is normally a little more glossy green than shows in your pic ....... smiley_speechless.

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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2007, 09:45:05 am »
I knew it wouldn't take you long, WDH!  Here's another picture:
 

I think some of the leaves in the back ground show off that glossy green that you're talking about.

SD:  I did mention it when I first joined the forum, but I wanted it to be something that would take a while to figure out.  You and Texas Ranger are the only ones who have noticed so far ;).
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2007, 10:09:00 am »
Flowers in the leaf axils, but that is not much of a hint.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2007, 10:25:03 am »
It is if you keep your tree ID guide beside your computer ;D.
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Re: The fun never ends: Another ID challenge
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2007, 11:05:52 am »
I don't have a single tree ID book in this office.  They are all at home :-\.  I need two copies of each one :D.
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