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LL's Identification Games (Number 2) - (SOLVED: sourwood)
« on: June 09, 2007, 08:11:11 am »
Sorry about the blurriness.  (maybe that will make this more challenging)

These are pretty common in my area.


 


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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2007, 10:24:20 am »
Are the buds prominently pseudo-terminal?  Are there very fine hairs on the central mid-rib of the principle vein on the leaf underside?  Are the leaf margins finely serrate?

I am 99% sure that I know this one, but I will hang back and let the game play on and see what transpires.......:)
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2007, 10:26:55 am »
 Pop_corn ;D

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2007, 10:34:40 am »
 Pop_corn Pop_corn   ;D  ;D
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2007, 02:25:52 pm »
I think you're barking up the right tree, WDH.  Chew on leaf, LL, and see if it tastes like sour apple.  If it does, then our suspicions will be confirmed. :)
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2007, 04:09:30 pm »
Don't give it away, DL.  Lets see what our other Forum members can conjure up ;D.
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2007, 05:21:19 pm »
I modified that post just a little, since I know you didn't mean it.  ;)

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2007, 07:24:39 pm »
SD, you are right :).
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 08:41:04 am »
Fine hairs on the central mid-rib of the principle vein on the leaf underside    =      YES
Leaf margins finely serrate   =    YES

This is a tree, not a shrub, bush, or vine.

It is one of the last (if not the last) trees to leaf out in spring.

Fall leaf color is considered among the best of any tree.

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 11:19:19 am »
Beautiful fall color, a deep vermillion red.  The bees like the flowers :).
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 12:55:05 pm »
They turn yellow here. Our pin cherry turn a fire red or mahogany.

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2007, 03:49:58 pm »
Huh SD?

I did not know these ranged that far north.

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2007, 05:31:14 pm »
Hmmm, then this must be the mother of all choke cherries.   8)  ;D :D :D :D



In full bloom.
 

Leave it to me to not only have the tape upside down, but backwards.  ::) That's 2.3 meters in circumference at 3 feet, or 29 inches in diameter.  ;D

 

Can almost smell them blooms.  :)







Prunus serotina  ;D

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2007, 05:39:39 pm »
That was what I was thinking but wasn't sure. Next time I am going to speak my mind, however crazy an idea I might have. ;D


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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2007, 06:56:15 pm »
Negatory, not a prunus. 

This plant has bark with very deep and distinctive V-fissures.  This tree does not range further north than Southern Pennsylvania.  The nectar from the long drooping racemes are used by honey bees to make a prized honey, marketed by this tree's name.

One more hint.  It is an understory tree, very common in the lover elevations of the Applachain Mountains. 

BTW, Dodgy Loner's post contains a huge clue ;D.


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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2007, 07:26:35 pm »
Then....... it must be sourwood Oxydendrum arboreum. A tree I'm unfamiliar with. A source of sourwood honey, abundant in the Smokies. ;D

Tricky bunch on here.  ;)

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2007, 07:46:36 pm »
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2007, 08:30:55 am »
Yep, WDH and DL had this one nailed from the start it sounds like.

I have a number of these behind my house.  This one is my favorite.  It looks like something you would find growing in the Munster's front yard.

 


And the second picture shows the bark, which is a very distinct feature of a mature sourwood.
My cat likes it too.  She will often climb it and rest on the horizontal section of the trunk.  Now if she would just kill some of my marauding squirrels.  >:(

 

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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2007, 09:09:12 am »
LL,

That is a nice view ;D.  The sourwood creates an interesting visual line among all those vertical lines.  Very nice.  What other stuff is lurking in those woods :D.
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Re: LL's Identification Games (Number 2)
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2007, 05:58:20 pm »
Now if she would just kill some of my marauding squirrels.  >:(

The landowner adjacent to us just cleared about 35 acres of hardwood forest, effectively doubling our population of marauding squirrels.  At least they give my dog something to do while I'm gone ::).
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