Author Topic: In feed / Out feed tables for planer (Read 6651 times)

Wudman · « **on:** June 05, 2007, 10:17:30 am »

I've had enough wrestling with "roller stands" with my Woodmaster planer. It's time for some good in feed tables. Does anybody have a recommendation on a set up that works well? As the table on the Woodmaster is the movable part, I was considering a stand that would raise and lower the planer and keep the tables stationary as opposed to having to readjust two tables with ever depth change. Anybody tried this? Thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

Wudman

bedway · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2007, 10:34:16 am »

I have had a woodmaster for years and my first guess is your doing something wrong. You shouldnt have to adjust the rollers that much. If you can provide some more details maybe i can help you,,,bedway

Wudman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:23:42 pm »

Bedway,

Right now I am using a couple of those portable roller stands. Yesterday I was running 8/4 x 12 x 16' yellow poplar. The individual roller stands just don't cut it.....I'd knock 'em over.....knock 'em sideways....Running this long stuff I want a good set of in feed tables. I've got some 16/4 x 10 x 16' oak to run so I'm gonna need them soon. Short stuff is no problem, the longer stuff is a hassle working by myself. Thanks.

Wudman

pineywoods · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:52:48 pm »

Problem is not unique to a woodmaster, any planner where the table raises and lowers instead of the head moving will have a problem with long heavy stuff. I have the same problem with the portable rollers on a tripod. I have a job coming up that's gonna involve some 24 ft 6X6 to run through my woodmaster. Ain't figured any good way to do it. Sure could use an infeed and outfeed table with rollers, that would adjust up and down. Never thought about raising the entire planner, might be easier.

woodhick · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2007, 10:26:01 pm »

Not sure of a solution to your question, but if you are having problems with knocking over the current stands that you are using i may have a solution. I built a stand and used an old brake drum from a large truck for the base. It is heavy and stable, if you need to move it just tip it up and roll.

Wudman · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:45:22 am »

Nice idea Woodhick. I did something similar to mount my bench grinder. It is sitting on a big truck wheel and axle. That works well. I may just have to do the same with the roller stands. They would be on a stable base anyway. Thanks.

Larry · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2007, 10:19:01 am »

I had an outfeed table on a 30” Crescent. To adjust height it had a swinging leg on one end while the other end was attached to the table. It was quick to adjust by just pushing on the leg with your foot.

I prefer roller stands…but I’m not running big and heavy like you are. Besides making the roller stand heavy, use an extra big roller. 4” is about minimum diameter with 6” being a lot better. The weight and extra big roller keep it from being pushed around.

This is my first attempt at a roller stand. Latest model has a 6” roller, three legs so it always sits on the floor solid, and weighs maybe 4 times as much. Sorry that it’s not available for a picture at this time.

metalspinner · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2007, 01:15:12 pm »

I once saw in a surplus catalogue the inner workings and frame for electric car seats. I always thought that would make good outfeed tables. If placed on top of a cabinet, it could be rolled around to different machines and tilted and lifted to match up perfectly to the tables of the different tools.

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #8 on:** June 06, 2007, 04:40:05 pm »

Bedway is thinking you are having trouble with your feed rollers I think. Not on the same page. i can relate though I have a Woodmaster and about the only thing I don't like about it is the table moves versus the head. I don't like the rollers either because you do have to adjust them further up as you plane when you are doing large heavy stock to minimize snipe.

I wanted to make a planer bed for mine so I could use it as a jointer too, but haven't figured out how I want to do that yet.

If you haven't ordered the Shelix Type cuterhead from Woodmaster yet I highly reccomend it. You'll never go back to HSS again.

flht01 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2007, 05:10:16 pm »

I just picked up my 725 last week but haven't had a chance to put it together yet. One of the options I decided to get was in-feed/out-feed tables that bolted up and folded down when not in use. I'll post pictures when I get it uncrated.

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2007, 05:34:52 pm »

I hope you spent the extra $1600. I know I sound like a broken record but you will not believe the difference.

flht01 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 07, 2007, 01:10:10 pm »

Quote from: kevjay on June 06, 2007, 05:34:52 pm

I hope you spent the extra $1600. I know I sound like a broken record but you will not believe the difference.

I didn't but will before I get too far along, just have to recover from sticker shock first.

While we're on the topic of woodmasters, has anybody tried using the router attachment to make tounge and groove in place of a router table or shaper?

Ironwood · « **Reply #12 on:** June 07, 2007, 05:21:35 pm »

Well, I have had several plans for addressing dis issue over da years. I currently have two Beach stroke sander tables I was going to use for just dis purpose (they have a bevel gear and gibbed ways and raise and lower a pretty good distance). I would sell both fairly cheap (w/ all da other various parts to da sanders as well) for like $300 for both.

My new, albeit more expensive solution are hydraulic scissor lifts. I have several bouncing around da shop at any given time. They are great mobile work stations and come in real handy for dis purpose.( Someone YOPPERIZED my words, I don't speak like this)

Reid

pineywoods · « **Reply #13 on:** June 07, 2007, 07:48:39 pm »

re router attachment for woodmaster

real picky to get set up right, but it works fine...ran a bunch of V groove tongue and groove paneling...

flht01 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 07, 2007, 10:30:15 pm »

Quote from: pineywoods on June 07, 2007, 07:48:39 pm

re router attachment for woodmaster

real picky to get set up right, but it works fine...ran a bunch of V groove tongue and groove paneling...

Thanks for the info, pineywoods. I'll put the attachment on the "like to have" list along with the Shelix Type cuterhead. It'll probably be quite awhile though, I need a good bandsaw and jointer first.

Wudman · « **Reply #15 on:** June 08, 2007, 09:57:25 am »

Quote from: Ironwood (Reid Crosby) on June 07, 2007, 05:21:35 pm

Well, I have had several plans for addressing dis issue over da years. I currently have two Beach stroke sander tables I was going to use for just dis purpose (they have a bevel gear and gibbed ways and raise and lower a pretty good distance). I would sell both fairly cheap (w/ all da other various parts to da sanders as well) for like $300 for both.

My new, albeit more expensive solution are hydraulic scissor lifts. I have several bouncing around da shop at any given time. They are great mobile work stations and come in real handy for dis purpose.( Someone YOPPERIZED my words, I don't speak like this)

Reid

Reid,

This is one of my lines of thought. I was considering a hydraulic scissor lift for the planer and leaving the feed tables stationary ( a nice heavy platform for the planer). Is your scissor lift stable enough that the planer wouldn't try to "wiggle" around? Thanks.

Wudman

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #16 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:51:33 pm »

I don't get what you mean Wudman.. How are you going to leave the feed tables stationary? You mean let the planer go up and down? That's 800 pounds that would be riding up and down on those little all thread jack screws plus the weight of the board being planed. Not sure I would want that.

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08, 2007, 12:54:29 pm »

Quote from: Ironwood (Reid Crosby) on June 07, 2007, 05:21:35 pm

( Someone YOPPERIZED my words, I don't speak like this)

I must admit it raised my eyebrow. I thought how out of character it was for you to speak this way. Silly me yeah, but not Reid! I feel better now.

Wudman · « **Reply #18 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:15:25 pm »

Quote from: kevjay on June 08, 2007, 12:51:33 pm

I don't get what you mean Wudman.. How are you going to leave the feed tables stationary? You mean let the planer go up and down? That's 800 pounds that would be riding up and down on those little all thread jack screws plus the weight of the board being planed. Not sure I would want that.

I was thinking of using a hydraulic ATV / Motorcycle scissor lift to raise and lower the planer. That way, the infeed and outfeed tables could be made solid. On the other hand, maybe I should just make the tables of the scissor lift variety and then they could be moved around the shop as needed. Using a hydraulic jack as the operating mechanism, adjustments would be fairly simple. Maybe I was trying to out think myself.

Wudman

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #19 on:** June 08, 2007, 04:03:59 pm »

I like the mobile scissor lift for tables better too. i want to keep my planer mobile as well. I won't get around to that project until next year probably. If you beat me to it post some pics if'n you don't mind.

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