Author Topic: Solved: Viburnum Cassinoides (Read 1784 times)

Tom · « **on:** June 29, 2001, 07:50:50 pm »

How about this one? I was so startled to find this in my back yard I had to take a picture of it. From a distance I thought it was something else but upon examination found that this plant is supposed to be common here....I just didn't know it. It's used for jelly and wine but the pit kept me from eating but one. It's not real sweet either.

Its leaves are serrated.

I am not 100 percent sure of my Id and will define the description further if you ask.

Witherod Vibernum

RavioliKid · « **Reply #1 on:** June 29, 2001, 08:52:21 pm »

Gooseberry?
Choke cherry?
Gee, it looks like something my grandmother used to make jelly out of, but I can't think of it.

Don P · « **Reply #2 on:** June 29, 2001, 08:58:58 pm »

It's got a crown and a blue berry but a blueberry has a smooth leaf. And I think you're too far south for even rabbiteye's.Shoot stumped again!

Tom · « **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2001, 09:12:56 pm »

yep, that's what threw me. I ran over there thinking I had some of the biggest Highbush Blueberries in the states and found a seed in the middle before I saw the leaf. You'll get it. I just hope you folks name it what I did to justify my answer. :-/

Gordon · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2001, 08:10:35 am »

Devils walking stick might be what your thinking but it's american alder. I figure if I keep guessing sooner or later I'll get one.

gordon

Roger_T · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2001, 08:42:59 am »

My guess would be either dwarf elder, or young virgina creeper. Cannot find a reliable picture of either, just going by the descriptions ive been able to find.

Roger

Gordon · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2001, 04:25:25 pm »

Roger, with the luck I've had so far guessing these it will end up being a Tupelo. Just waiting for the big decision to take place and see if were even close.
Gordon

CHARLIE · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2001, 05:13:44 pm »

Well, the leaves look like those from the Black Cherry tree, but the berries don't look like cherries. The berries look like they are from a Hawthorn but the leaves don't match up. I don't think this tree really exist 'cause it's not in my tree book. :-/

Tom · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2001, 07:42:42 pm »

Gordon,

your so hot you're on fire.

If I have identified this properly then you are one letter off.

What do they say about a Miss 'n a mile?

Gordon · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2001, 12:06:12 am »

Ok lets try this again American Elder. I think that I've finally got one--maybe huh maybe?

Gordon

Tom · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2001, 08:17:39 am »

GORDON GOT ONE!!!!!!!!!
That is if I have ID'd it properly. I have never noticed Elderberry here before but probably because I wasn't looking for it. Elderberry jelly and Elderbeery....er...uh berry....wine. I might just have to propagate some. Have you every heard of an Elderberry farm? I can see it now "pick-yer-own". That would be a new one on the Internal Revenue service wouldn't it. Hehee, chasing the Elderberry wine makers around the swamp. They're still kept pretty busy around here trying to keep track of all the other "tax free" beverages produced in the swamps.

Jeff · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2001, 12:04:32 pm »

Woa woa WOA! Before I leave on vacation, we have elderberry all over up here, we make wine and jelly out of it.

What you are showing me is definitly not what we know as elderberry. This thread is not solved!

See ya guys! I am off for a few days of nothing in paticular!

Gordon · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2001, 02:32:50 pm »

Well I give up on the id stuff

So what is it then?

Man I can't get a break this week

Gordon

Tom · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2001, 05:29:40 pm »

Gordon,
I don't know either. Guess I'll have to take some to the County Agent and get them to tell me what it is..........Ha.
Gordon,
I still think it is American Elder. I have seen some pictures of some other elders that don't look like this and I have a picture of American Elder that does look like this. If it were a plant I was familiar with I'de believe the plant key but since I'm not familiar with it there are doubts. I'll find out though.

We have so much stuff blooming and growing down here that it's tempting to flood the site but I don't want it to turn into work.

Here is another shot. My camera is hard to focus on short distances but you can see the serations if you look close.

Don P · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2001, 08:31:38 pm »

Read Jeff's post. He is right it is not elderberry (which is blooming up here now,and is used in wine and jellies)
You guys are saying American Elder which I don't know. They may be two different plants? :-/

L. Wakefield · « **Reply #15 on:** July 02, 2001, 05:50:48 am »

What about serviceberry aka shadblow? The 2nd pic definitely looks like it, and the red berries on the first pic do. But the blue berries are all wrong for the serviceberry that I know. Might it be an import? LW :-/

Don P · « **Reply #16 on:** July 02, 2001, 08:48:45 pm »

No way,LW. Don't quit Gordon we're all guessin now. Michelle guesses skimma (sp). I know one thing we're bringing field guides back after break!

swampwhiteoak · « **Reply #17 on:** July 03, 2001, 06:44:04 am »

Tom, it would help me out if you'd post leaf arrangement. Serviceberry would be simple, serrated and alternate. Am. Elder would be compound, serrated, and opposite. Give us a good leaf shot.

BTW, Elderberry = American Elder in common usage. Some books refer to elderberry as the european version (Sambucus nigra as opposed to the native Sambucus canadensis)

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** July 03, 2001, 09:26:58 am »

I went back out to get another picture and am having problems getting it to be real sharp, but rather than reshoot it now I'll post what I've got. The leaves are serrated but I find many that are smooth edged. They are opposite and seem to be simple, although many of these boughs make it look as if they are compound because the arrangements are so identical.

swampwhiteoak · « **Reply #19 on:** July 03, 2001, 01:01:09 pm »

Looks like a Euonymous to me. Is it growing shrubby or more like a tree?

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