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Author Topic: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?  (Read 2377 times)

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Re: What is This?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2007, 06:43:29 pm »
Hmmmm.....I finally recognized something, from a Missourian I believe, that hinted a note of familiarity in some of that genus mortimus legitimus.    :D



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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2007, 11:00:28 pm »
Aahhhhh!  I love a good mystery.  I'm gonna go with my gut and say the butler did it. ;D
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Re: What is This?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2007, 10:42:33 pm »
Solved!!

Bro. Noble wins the prize............This is Gum Bumelia, Bumelia lanuginosa.  Good going, Bro. Noble 8).
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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2007, 03:09:36 pm »
Your leaves and flowers look different than this source.

http://www.noble.org/imagegallery/woodhtml/Chittamwood.html

Maybe it's because the leaves have just emerged and have not thickened. The flowers seem to be in clusters. This what you guys call 'ironwood' down there?

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2007, 04:46:55 pm »
That looks like our 'gum bumelia' and ours grows in the sites described.  What we call iron wood grows along the creeks.  There are two similar species that are locally called ironwood,  other names are muscle wood,  blue beech, & hopp hornbeam.  Dad tried to teach me the difference in the two species,  but I can't memember them.  I did remember gum bumelia,  however.  You ever stack the nasty brush from one and you don't forget them :D :D
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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2007, 06:29:43 pm »
I agree with Bro. Noble.  Ironwood is usually used to refer to american hornbeam(Carpinus caroliniana) and eastern hophornbeam (Ostrya virginia).  Hornbeam has the very smooth gray bark with flutes in the bark that look like muscles.  Hophornbeam bark is brown and very scaly.  Both are understory species.

The leaves of gum bumelia are very soft and velvety underneath.  The leaves are not hard and stiff like live oak.  It looks like that in your website, SD, but the leaves are actually pliable.

I have some other pics that I will post tomorrow.

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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2007, 05:18:26 am »
Yeah those hophornbeam can take over a sugar bush. You can start out with 20 hophornbeam on 10 acres and do some thinning in the stand, then before long you have 100,000's of them.  ::)

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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2007, 07:24:21 am »
I agree with Bro. Noble.  Ironwood is usually used to refer to american hornbeam(Carpinus caroliniana) and eastern hophornbeam (Ostrya americana).  Hornbeam has the very smooth gray bark with flutes in the bark that look like muscles.  Hophornbeam bark is brown and very scaly.  Both are understory species.

The leaves of gum bumelia are very soft and velvety underneath.  The leaves are not hard and stiff like live oak.  It looks like that in your website, SD, but the leaves are actually pliable.

I have some other pics that I will post tomorrow.




They have mild, non-acidic, pleasant taste.  Unlike the ironwood family.    ;D
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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2007, 08:41:34 am »
I posted the scientific name of hophornbeam wrong.  It is Ostrya virginia not Ostrya americana.

I have never liked the taste of ironwood either ;D.

You hit the nail on the head, SwampDonkey.  Hophornbeam is a very efficient colonizer on my property.  I burned a hardwood stand on my place 5 years ago.  Now the understory is a hophornbeam thicket :).
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Re: Solved!!!!!!....Gum Bumelia. What is This?
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2007, 07:44:27 pm »
My backyard gum bumelia is in full bloom.  The flowers cluster at the base of the leaf petiole.  The bees are loving it, too.

 

Sorry that the pic is blurry. 
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