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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2007, 09:47:25 pm »
After you sell all the good logs make sure you can get rid of the logs that are #2 and #3.Probaly the timber framers might be willing to pay a better price than select and maybe #1.Most lumber yards don't like to see a bunch of low grade logs come in.They expect to see the good and the bad.
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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2007, 04:27:57 am »
Yeah some mills give notice that they can reject the load of wood if the logs have been high graded out.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2007, 10:12:39 pm »
If they are telling it is worthless it may be because

1) of the size of the butt end of the log since many mills, both pulp and lumber, do not want it if it is over 26" because it will not fit on their equipment (been there done that).

I have cut a few up just for that reason into firewood and given it away for free.

2) Not really enough to fill a few trailers

I think if you cut it down to the requested size and had it ready to haul, you could find at least a few people willing to pay up to .10-.20 a foot.

Though in my current situation, I too am finding pine worthless. I can't find any local lumber or pulp mills, or small sawyers to take anything less then a few trailer loads, even if I deliver. Never mind just picking it up for free. I would be happy if I could get paid $0.10 bf instead of cutting all the pine up into firewood and giving it away for free.

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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2007, 05:21:27 pm »
Try calling Tuckaway Timber in Lyme, (cant remember Vt. or N.H.) I think NH. THey used to specialize in WIDE stock pine for windor chair bottoms. Google them it should come up. Reid
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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2007, 05:50:21 pm »
our neighborhood mill here in west Quebec, commonwealth plywood, is paying $650.00/1000. for clear buts over 14 in. tops dwindle down to $275.00/1000. most are selling around here at $400.oo/1000 on the average full tree

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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2007, 07:25:07 pm »
In New England White pine is worth some money.The 26 inch factor here in Maine and I suppose the rest of New England only applies to the pulp mills.Most saw mills,big sawmills,not like the ones most of us own on here will take logs to 42 inch.In fact about 15 years ago my father and me was selling pallet pine logs to a sawmill that was taken them as big as we could send them.This is a grade that they cut out the knots and bad places for clear lumber than they dovetail and glue it together for windows and door frames.Some was up to 60 inches,most was 50 inches.They was hiring high school kids to peel them by hand and they would get them in front of the debarker to get them to the saw.Than the following year they redid the mill and they was no way to get around the debaker.Nothing over 42 inches.Good thing we chased all of the big ones down.These are like a scrub pine as they are called here.Lucky to get a 8 foot log before the crotch out 3-5 times.My Father came from the old school and could not believe that they would take them AND pay us for them.We sent them alot of ugly logs.I just had ALOT of White Pine cut over 36 inches.Check out my gallery for pictures.
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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2007, 07:27:01 pm »
How long will the logs be...if they are long enough, I'll run up and get them...been thinking about a small timber frame cabin...let me know what your thinking...

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« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2007, 10:15:12 pm »
Hancock buys at a yard about 5 miles from my place.  I have taken stuff there that was 42" top ends.  I asked their buyer how big was too big.  Answer "If you can get it here it is not too big."  He told me if Hancock could not saw it,  they had buyers for it.

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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2007, 11:07:28 pm »
Plenty of buyers for pine in conn. You should average about $300mbf at least. If it is nice pine call this guy hancock lumber Kevin Finkenaur (Sterlin Mass yard) (207)615-8772 or Ralph Arnold (Greenfeild NH  yard) (603)660-1442

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« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2007, 06:34:54 am »
That 207 # must be Maine isn't it?

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2007, 11:22:13 am »
I had a realtor offer me some pine today.  He had bought a house and was renovating it for a rental unit, has four pines that need to come down and he told me that he could not find a buyer.  Well I said the market was a bit weak at the immediate moment, but that wasn't the reason.  Apparently the two different guys that he contacted said they would not touch them if within 150 feet of a house - too much metal possible.  So I went and looked.  One pine about 12" dbh but nice and clear, damaged because it was right next to the road and snowplows kept hitting it.  One about 32" dbh and so full of metal you'd think it was an "iron"wood tree.  There were floodlights attached, wiring, a wrought iron plant hanger, and who knows what else.  The other two were about 32" dbh and 42" dbh, beautiful trees, no branches for 25 ft on the 42" one and the 32" one I bet someone with the right equipment could get a 20" square, 40' long beam out of it.  I told him I couldn't offer him much because I had the same concerns, he said that they were coming down anyway and if I could find a way to haul them off, I could have 'em.  He has an arborist coming to drop and buck them, and he said the guy would be in touch with me as to how long he should leave the logs. 

 8)  Looks like I got the beginnings of a new barn there.
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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2007, 01:27:46 pm »
 QwikDraw I'd be interested in hearing more.  If you're in the eastern part of the state.  I could take in 5mbf at the moment and another 5mbf mid-May.





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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2007, 07:06:04 pm »
Try finding some small sawmills that do specialty work, like wide plank flooring.

This is a 22" wide flooring board I cut this winter.



Wide pine is our primary market at the moment. Unfortunately you are out of our logtruck range. (If it were up to me, that thing wouldn't leave the yard! :o) If the log is too big, we cut one or two adjacent side with the Alaskan mill, and it is a breeze to saw out then.


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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2007, 08:53:38 pm »
Thanks for all the replies.  I got shut down by the town because the developer did not have all his paper work in.  I hopefully will be back there next week and get some pictures then.

Sorry to be ignorant but I don't much about selling or marketing timber, as a matter of fact I wouldn't know 5mbf of timber if it hit me in the face...I guess I would know it hurt but that's all.  Do i need to get transportation set up for the timber or do the mills/buyers do that?  How much does a log truck hold (say a tri-axle)?  I'm going to take a stab and say 1mbf =1000 board feet but what constitutes a board foot 12" x 12" x 1"

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2007, 09:29:05 pm »
I would say a typical tri-axle should hold about 4000 board feet of logs. If you want to learn more about log and lumber dimensions go to the red toolbox in the left hand column. You can calculate all sorts of things in there. Example: 36"x12' log has 736 bf. This is using the International scale, which is common here in the Northeast.


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Re: 36" White Pine is worth...
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2007, 10:01:57 pm »
1 board foot = 144 cubic inches, so yes 12"x12"x1" is a board foot.
So is 6"x12"x2".

1mbf = 1,000 board feet.

 


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