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QwikDraw · « **on:** April 05, 2007, 08:47:17 pm »

I am in the middle of clearing a few acres for a new development and have enough 36"+ White Pines that I think would be worth something but have been told they are worth almost nothing. I Guess the question is what should I expect to get for them? Or should I be happy if I can get someone to pick them up and just get rid of them?

THX

jackpine · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2007, 08:52:01 pm »

What part of the country are you located in? White pine seems to vary in price more than some other woods depending on the area and local demand.

Gary_C · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:00:17 pm »

Yep, they are worthless. Just tell me where I can pick them up and I will haul them away.

Yes, you need to update your profile so we know where you are located. Can't imagine 36" white pine not being worth something.

QwikDraw · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:01:00 pm »

oops,

I'm in Connecticut....

thecfarm · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:09:35 pm »

I just had a logger in on my land again,cutting almost all white pine.I've been cutting a little of it myself in the last 15 years.Only had a couple bad years that the price was down.I stopped when the price was low.If you are in CT I would get someone else.That does not sound right.Are the trees straight?How far up is the first limb?I just had a bunch of scrub pine cut.The onces that you can barely get a 8 foot log and than it crotches out 3-5 times and it's all crooked from there on up.The mill was crying for it,off it went.Most times they don't want much of it.The market for white pine in NE was strong.This time of year is hard.Most sawmills have thier ponds full.I would be careful.

Don K · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:10:25 pm »

I wish I had them. My log house is built from 6 X 12 hand hewn white pine timbers. Good looking wood. Don

QwikDraw · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:16:34 pm »

Thanks for the info.

I will get a second (and maybe third) opinion....

Gary_C · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:23:47 pm »

If those white pine are straight and 36" you should find someone from the Timber Framers Guild. I think they are always looking for good straight white pine for timber framed houses. But it all depends on what they look like. Got any pictures?

QwikDraw · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2007, 09:28:57 pm »

I could get some....

I guess it wouldn't take to many to fill a truck. I'll take a few pics tomorrow.

thx,
Ted

Greenedive · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2007, 10:10:37 pm »

White Pine isn't worth cutting here in north-central PA.....unless you have a use for it yourself. I cut some nice stuff for a landowner last Fall...and it was still laying there this Spring...unsold. The virgin timber here was Hemlock and White Pine and that was stripped by the 20s...Beautiful hardwoods came back in and the softwoods remaining are not even figured in the price of a sale. It is a shame.
BUT...it makes beautiful lumber for framing and other parts of the country have a good market for it. Good Luck!

Engineer · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:26:28 am »

Any way you can leave it standing? I have a bunch of pines that size on my land, and I'm leaving them until I have a use for them. Probably a TF barn. There's minimal market for it, especially now that we are getting into April and the mills are probably close to full of softwoods.

Rick Alger · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2007, 10:49:29 am »

There may be truckers from northern New England or Canada delivering retail lumber near you. They would probably be interested in back-hauling the pine if it's decent and you can load it.

Ron Wenrich · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2007, 11:51:29 am »

My experience has always been that white pine is worth a minimum of $100/Mbf on the stump. After its sawn, then prices can vary.

I have sold clears for over $1/bf green, mainly in 4/4 and 5/4. Something that size should have a good portion in clear lumber.

A lot would depend if it is red knot or black knot as to the use for the rest of the lumber. Red knot is pretty prevalent in New England, while here in the Atlantic states, we get plenty of black knot pine. The red knot can be used as paneling or cabinet grade. Those knots stay tight and don't fall out. Paneling gets sawn at 1x6" and some 1x4". Tongue and groove after air drying and you're looking at 60-70¢ wood. Maybe more.

Hearts can be sawn into either timber frame stock. I have sawn anywhere from an 8x8 to an 8x12, cut real heavy for shrinkage and planing. That will fetch 80¢.

Cabin stock can be made on logs too small for timber frame stock. That's for 6x8" stock and that fetches 40-50¢.

Yep, its worthless.

Guys in the northeast have been thinking hardwoods for so long they can't see any profit in softwoods. We have one company that stopped trying to knock heads with everyone else and started to take that "junk" softwoods. That was over 20 years ago. Here they are now: http://www.kuhnsbros.com/

Engineer · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2007, 03:45:59 pm »

I want to add on to what Ron said - find a timber framer who might be interested in it. I cut a couple of 36" trees for my house, and we pulled four, 24' long, 8" x 8" timbers out of the butt logs of each tree. Those are free of heart and make up the four main posts in the center two bents of the house. I wish I had a way to get them, I'd take them off your hands.

One of our members - Raphael - is a timberframer in CT. Maybe he knows of someone that could look at them and help you out.

Ron Scott · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2007, 05:59:26 pm »

Connecticut Stumpage Prices

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2007, 06:27:08 pm »

It must be worth something to someone. Just about every new house that goes up in this part of the world has white pine trim around doors and windows. A lot of interior pine doors to. Hardwood trim is too expensive for most new home owners in my area. $70-80 a planed, kilned plank is pretty pricey isn't it. You can get a pine door for $95.

mike_van · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2007, 07:13:33 pm »

Quickdraw - What town in Ct.? I'm in Kent - Near N.Y. state line, are you close?

QwikDraw · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2007, 07:29:32 pm »

Mike, I live in east hartland but the job is in Windsor CT. Remembered the camera this morning but forgot to take the pictures. Blew a hydraulic line late in the day.

Ted

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2007, 07:47:29 pm »

The Weymouth Pine

mike_van · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2007, 08:48:44 pm »

Ted - I sent you an email but it bounced back - I might know someone who'd be interested - PM me.

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