Author Topic: whatzits from the secret pond shore (Read 1773 times)

Jeff · « **on:** March 15, 2007, 10:35:03 pm »

First up...

Jeff · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:36:38 pm »

OOPS!

I mean this one...

Riles · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2007, 11:00:59 pm »

Vaccinium. aka huckleberry aka Eliot's blueberry. Just started blooming around here too.

Tom · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2007, 11:24:45 pm »

You win!

Texas Ranger · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:20:47 am »

I recognize them first two, the front one is a red shirted good ol southren boy. The one sneakin up behind is a DanG Yankee!

Jeff · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:47:58 am »

Up next:

LeeB · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2007, 04:36:57 pm »

smoke tree? LeeB

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:16:33 pm »

Yeah those vaccinium blooms are unmistakable.

I was looking close in that first picture for any snakes in the grass.

I think Tom's beverage can is empty. Did Jeff run back and get a new one Tom? That chair looks too comfy to move from.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:39:16 pm »

Is it a persimmon? Can't tell if the twigs are zigzag growth. I can't tell if those are old leaves or seed pods of something else.

Tom · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:10:42 pm »

They are seed pods and are dry. they rattle in the wind.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:25:26 pm »

Is it an invasive, like tree of heaven? Ailanthus altissima

Tom · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:32:45 pm »

Actually, I don't know. I'm not even sure what it is.

In the Tree and Plant I.D. , a long time ago, I pictured the blooms and leaves. We considered it solved at one point, but, I'm not convinced we got it.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2007, 08:45:05 pm »

I know it's not hoptree, it has more rounded pods and more clustered.

There is a perennial we grow here that is called 'silver dollar' or Honesty Lunaria biennis, but that shrub looks woody in your picture.

Tom · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:38:01 pm »

It is woody, but has a hollow pith.

Jeff · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2007, 09:44:13 am »

I'll get a picture of the seed today. Each of those pods have one seed that looks just like a bean.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2007, 09:50:51 am »

Similar?

http://plants.usda.gov/java/largeImage?imageID=aial_002_ahp.tif

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:18:12 am »

bladder pod ?

Jeff · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:58:16 am »

Neither one is really close.

Jeff · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2007, 12:00:39 pm »

Tom says this seldom comes up in undisturbed ground but if you plow or scrape, or burn, they come up prolifically.

This is the thread that contained the flower. but we need to reconsider as we may not have solved it.
http://www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=4007.0

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:36:39 pm »

Looks like danglepod

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:53:39 pm »

Danglepod Seed

Jeff · « **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2007, 06:14:07 pm »

Thats not it either but Tom says its DanG close. The example plant in over 8 feet tall with smallwe ones scattered around. Here are good photos of the pods, which each contain two "beans" and the "beans"

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2007, 07:03:03 pm »

It's definately the same genus man.

Look at these seeds of Sesbania vesicaria Bagpod

Tom · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2007, 07:16:08 pm »

Yes, I think you've hit the target square on. I'm enjoying reading about the plants now.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2007, 07:31:04 pm »

Tom, is there a SE Plant guide by Audubon? I Have 3 shrubs and flower books of the east and they don't even have that genus in there. I'd be writing Audubon a letter. These plants are native.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2007, 10:29:19 pm »

It's kind of odd looking at the fruit of it. Looks like two cases. But think of an apple, there is an outside skin, then the flesh, then another membrane around the seeds.

Jeff · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2007, 11:53:57 pm »

That was fun, may we have another? Well certainly!

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2007, 07:09:48 am »

Can't catch us off guard now man, we found the site with the mother lode

Sesbania herbacea Bigpod Sesbania -Seeds

Leaves,Pods (fruit) and Flowers

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2007, 07:17:14 am »

Tom, are you gonna be able to keep these 'pods' all separated in your mind the next time your neighbor or guest asks ya to id it? By the looks of that USDA site, we's just begun to discover them. A lot more yet to separate.

theorm · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2007, 11:50:32 pm »

Quote from: Jeff B on March 17, 2007, 06:14:07 pm

Thats not it either but Tom says its DanG close. The example plant in over 8 feet tall with smallwe ones scattered around. Here are good photos of the pods, which each contain two "beans" and the "beans"

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I thought they look like dingle berries. Nah, dingle berries are found on the south end of sheep.

WDH · « **Reply #30 on:** March 22, 2007, 09:07:57 pm »

Today, in East Texas, I saw a lot of sesbania! It is quite distinctive.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #31 on:** March 22, 2007, 09:22:02 pm »

WDH, I think the boys fell into the ~~pod~~ pond. What do you think?

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Author Topic: whatzits from the secret pond shore (Read 1773 times)