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Offline tonich

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The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« on: March 07, 2007, 12:34:16 pm »
Hey Everyone,
I’m starting a thread for the most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.  :)
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 12:35:35 pm »
So, where are the photos?  ::)  ;D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 12:44:39 pm »
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 07, 2007, 12:35:35 pm
So, where are the photos?  ::)  ;D

No photos! Sorry! I don’t have my own photo.  :-[


Oooops! Wrong section! What a start! :D :D :D

SD,Would you please move the topic to section “Forestry and logging”!

Thanks!
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 12:55:36 pm »
How are we going to 'talk shop' with no photos?  ::) :-\
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 01:05:01 pm »
Listen up, SD!
I’m unable to travel to the nearest Red Oak plantation, to make pictures. It is as 200 km. away from the place I live.  ::)  ;D ;D So I’ll tell you what I know so far.
I believe, it is not very disappointing for you!
It shouldn’t be, since you are a DVD ahead.  ;D
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Speaking in a different topic about red oak ID, suggested to tell you the story about the Northern Red Oak (Quercus rubra) in Bulgaria.

It was introduced over a century ago. At first as a park tree, but then for forestry needs. Nowadays there are many pure and mixed artificial plantations. Two years old seedlings are used on planting. The planting pattern is 2.0 x 2.5 m. Mixtures are of combinations of local oaks (refer to my profile!), Limes (NOT a citrus lime, SwampDonkey! :D :D :D) or/and Austrian Pine. As most suitable provenances for the local needs are claimed the ones from Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and New York. There are even regions here, where Red Oak is established and fully naturalized. Grow successfully, capable of self-regeneration and sustainable to local insects and disease. Red Oak stands are regenerated with shelterwood system mainly, which gives reasonable results for the time being. Age rotation is 100 years.
Comparing to local oaks, it grows faster, frutescence more often and is sustainable to atmospheric pollution. It is relatively more frost resistant, but still a bit light demanding and requires more fertilized soil. Develops flatroot, doesn’t like soil overwetting and not a calciphyte (comparing to Q. Cerris for instance). Its wood is a bit lighter and a les valuable than local oaks’ one. Overall it is considered a valuable introduced species. My personal vote is very positive. smiley_thumbsup
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 01:20:08 pm »
Hey!! It wasn't me claiming to grow citrus lime. I was just the myth buster.  ;D :D :D

Why do you call it lime? because it likes lime soils?  ::)
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 01:34:57 pm »
I heard train rides are not so expensive in Bulgaria. Maybe, we can have some photos later from your up coming trip 200 km from home? ;D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 01:57:47 pm »
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 07, 2007, 01:20:08 pm
Why do you call it lime? because it likes lime soils?  ::)

I really don’t know.
Maybe. Might someone else from Europe tell us.
But generally Lime = Tilia

Check this out!  ;)
Your English is better, than mine.
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2007, 02:01:09 pm »
I've been limed.  yikes_smiley
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2007, 02:03:17 pm »
Getting back to red oak, have you any planted in the yard? ;D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2007, 02:15:22 pm »
Swampy
Tilia X Europera L = Lime=European Basswood ;D
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2007, 03:13:56 pm »
 smiley_headscratch smiley_dizzy smiley_mad_crazy
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2007, 03:25:36 pm »
 :D  Is that you or me  :D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 03:30:48 pm »
Well, I know where I'm at....err maybe not.  :-\
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 03:54:02 pm »
 :D And I thought foresters Know all the Latin & common names. :D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2007, 04:39:32 pm »
Sure, the european lymewood carvers. Lime =linden=basswood I believe. I think alot of old icons and relief carvings were lime.

We've got northern red oak here in VA. One of my favorite woods. Our cabinets and trims are all red oak from off the property. I never thought that it might mean northern hemisphere  :D
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2007, 06:45:41 pm »
Quote from: tonich on March 07, 2007, 01:05:01 pm
Develops flatroot

smiley_headscratch I'm not familiar with that one. Do you have a definition?
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2007, 07:42:57 pm »
I know the definition in relation to more shade tolerant, but suppressed mid canopy trees. They develop a flat top because of dominant over story trees keep whipping the leader, so the lateral branches grow horizontal to reach for more light. Develops a flat top.

Not sure of the context that Toni is describing unless it's due to elevation or high winds on the hill sides/mountains.
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Re: The most successfully introduced North American tree species in Bulgaria.
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2007, 07:53:39 pm »
OK tonich, I am ignorant as to which introduced North American tree species is the most successful in Bulgaria!.  I must be Quercus rubra ;D.

Right?  The Tilias are not introduced, right?     
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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2007, 08:02:17 pm »
Quote from: Don P on March 07, 2007, 04:39:32 pm
Sure, the european lymewood carvers. Lime =linden=basswood I believe. I think alot of old icons and relief carvings were lime.


Dang limies Brits.  ;D
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