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What is it? Future turning project.
« on: March 02, 2007, 03:47:53 pm »
What type of wood is this?  I couldn't tell from my tree book.  I have no leaves or other identifiers but the bark is unique enough that I hope someone can tell.






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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 05:56:07 pm »
I don't know where it or you are from but if it came from North florida, the wood looks like it cold be black gum.  I don't recognize the bark.  It appears to have an interlocked grain. Did you have problems splitting that face?

All the little buds in the wood make it look like sweet gum too.  Again, the bark isn't like sweet gum with which I'm familiar.
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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 06:13:17 pm »
I don't think it's sweet gum and I didn't split off the corner.  I'm from central Illinois.  I doubt any of that helps too much.

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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 06:22:40 pm »
Knowing it came from central Illinois will be a big help to someone.  There are  members from that area.

Knowing about splitting that face will help in determining that the grain is locked.  Locked grains don't separate like a straight grained wood will do.  Red Oak practically falls apart in comparison.

Anything you can offer will be of help to someone.
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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 06:42:24 pm »
Dan, do you have a scanner?

I'd like to see the end grain.

Here is a thread on getting an end grain picture.

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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 10:02:01 pm »
I tried sniffing the screen but couldnt tell if it was cotton wood or not,dang cold.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 10:11:03 pm »
Sure looks like a possibility limbrat.

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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2007, 12:27:17 am »
Might be elm, but not enough info to do anything but speculate.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 08:52:00 am »
Might try to zoom in better on the bark and end grain for a couple more pics.

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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2007, 09:48:05 am »
I'll try to scan a piece later this morning.  I posted this in the turning section of another forum and the consensus there seems to be hackberry.

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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2007, 10:30:31 am »
Hackberry is in the elm family. Is the wood yellowish or with grey in it around the heartwood? A lot of times the wood is blue stained.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2007, 12:00:53 pm »
Better pic of the bark will help decide if its hackberry. These pics are too blurry to tell.
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Re: What is it? Future turning project.
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2007, 12:20:43 pm »
Try this, I zoomed in a little.  I can't figure out how to upload a larger picture.



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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2007, 01:08:48 pm »
The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see. Winston Churchill.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2007, 01:22:33 pm »
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I took a couple shots of two hackberry that I have. One about 13" diam and the other about 6".
You can see the bark ridges that distinguish them as hackberry. Your pics don't show good ridges, but that by itself, doesn't rule out it being hackberry. Just doubtful, in my mind.




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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2007, 01:34:22 pm »
It looks just like your top photo.  I'm convinced that's what I have after seeing your picture.

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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2007, 07:14:23 pm »
Yes, it probably is hackberry.  Wood looks just like elm with wavy bands in the latewood.  Most of the time, I would call the bark warty, like it is covered in warts, especially as you move up the stem from the base.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2007, 08:17:15 pm »
That sure is unique bark. Never seen anything like it. Black and white photos in the dendro book don't do it justice.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2007, 10:22:03 pm »
Hackberry and sugarberry have some of the most distinctive bark there is.  As you look up the stem, the bark goes smooth except for all the warty bumps and knobs.  Nothing else like it.  The problem is that hackberry and sugarberry are difficult to distinguish apart.  To be sure, you have to look at the length of the fruit peduncle, and most people don't know what a peduncle is anyway!  They also have been known to hybridize. 

I cut some sugarberry felled by Hurricane Ivan.  Air-dried it.  Gave me fits.  There was a tremendous amount of warp and twist.  The log had no sweep or indications of tension wood.  I cut some 8/4 that ended up looking like someone had taken a length of wet dough and twisted it at both  ends.  I will see about posting some pics of some of the contortions I experienced.  No wonder it is not highly sought after in a commercial sense except as pallet stock and dunnage.  Very pretty, thought.  Kind of like sycamore, the beauty is there if you can put up with the disposition ;D.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2007, 12:00:28 am »
Without da peduncle, I couldn't get the cherry outta the ice in the bottom of da glass..........
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