Author Topic: Cedar ID (Read 1186 times)

Furby · « **on:** February 23, 2007, 10:31:36 pm »

Found this in Western TN.
Can anyone tell us what kind of cedar it is?

WDH · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:04:38 pm »

Looks like eastern red to me. Is it in a forest setting where it is likely to be a native, or is it in somebody's yard or a potential escapee ornamental? Eastern Red Cedar can give you a lot of different looks, and that is the cedar that is supposed to be native to that region.

Furby · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:18:30 pm »

Forest, I belive it's planted Loblolly, but Stump Jumper can confirm.

WDH · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:28:56 pm »

If you cut off or break off one of those bigger dead branches, and if it is ERC, it will have that unique smell and you should be able to see some red color near the pith. That is a pretty easy way to determine without doing any real damage to the tree.

solodan · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2007, 11:37:32 pm »

Any cones, or fruit? Is the foliage flat or round?

Furby · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2007, 12:01:03 am »

We kind of forgot to get "samples" of the wood and branches.

They didn't look like the ERC we've seen, and wondered if it was SRC.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** February 26, 2007, 08:54:27 pm »

It does look like eastern red cedar. We don't have it native up here, but I have seen common juniper planted in old Christmas* tree plantations.

Tom · « **Reply #7 on:** February 26, 2007, 08:58:04 pm »

Furby, you probably wouldn't have identified it between Eastern Red and Southern Red. Southern Red is not as upright and the 'leaves' aren't as dense as Eastern Red. It is now written (I read it) that many botanist don't make a distinction between the two.

I guess it will be left to we purists.

Furby · « **Reply #8 on:** February 26, 2007, 09:18:40 pm »

Ah........ thanks Tom.

WDH · « **Reply #9 on:** February 26, 2007, 09:51:19 pm »

Botanist tend to be splitters, so many distinctions they make are not all that practical. If it is native, it is probably a variation of good ole eastern red cedar.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2007, 08:06:12 am »

Just as bad as trying to separate hybrids of Engelmann spruce. It crosses with white, Sitka and Colorado blue.

thurlow · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2007, 08:31:16 am »

Don't know about the difference between ERC and SRC; we always just lumped 'em in together. Sure looks native to me. (as gentle a reprimand as I can issue..............you don't get your knuckles rapped, you don't have to stand in the corner, you don't even have to put your head down on your desk; ain't no Western TN; there's East TN, Middle TN and WEST TN; all proud to be part of the Volunteer State, but as uniquely different as MI, MN, and MO are from each other).

Furby · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2007, 03:15:26 pm »

So where's the line between Middle TN and West TN?
Your the first I've meet that can't simply draw a line down the middle and have Western and Eastern or Northern and Southern.
Must be something in the water there eh?

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2007, 03:30:29 pm »

thurlow · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:14:51 pm »

It's not something in the water, it's the water itself...................as in the Tennessee River; divides the state into the "Three Grand Divisions".

Tom · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:15:30 pm »

It's more than just a line, it's cultures and geographic diversity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee

thurlow · « **Reply #16 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:22:00 pm »

Ain't got time to look at Wikipedia right now............supposed to be wiring my new shop; but you're exactly right about the "culture and geographic diversity". Three distinct soils, history (ies), ancestries, cultures, populations, etc.

Furby · « **Reply #17 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:29:30 pm »

Given that..... we were in Western MIDDLE TN.

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:34:45 pm »

Good recovery, Furby.

Furby · « **Reply #19 on:** February 27, 2007, 04:47:59 pm »

Well we were close enough that it was almost Eastern WEST TN.

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Author Topic: Cedar ID (Read 1186 times)