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Offline Coon

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What species is this?
« on: January 04, 2007, 09:52:25 pm »
Hey all I have a branch sample her that I pulled off the tree some time ago.  I was wondering if any of you here know what this is?  I do but you'll have to identify it from yourself.












I did the leaf pic no justice.  Will try again tomorrow.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 10:18:25 pm »
Coon, what are ya up to now? ;D

Looks like a black hawthorne Crataegus douglasii

  • short thorns
  • leaves coarsely double toothed or shallowly lobed, almost hairless
  • black fruit

Marcel started a similar thread below. ;)

Again the buds will be rounded and shiny.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 11:20:34 pm »
Yep, hawthorne............

I got one that will test ya'll.  I need to post a pic.  Won't be as fair to you frostbitten types way up north, but it will give you something to work at in the freezin' cold of winter in the great white north.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 09:57:15 am »
This tree DOES NOT have black fruit but yes it is a hawthorne of some kind.   The berries are red when they ripen on the tree.  I have a bit of this growing wild on our farm and was wondering is there any uses for the berries.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 10:53:22 am »
Last time I looked there were some 1700 species and sub species of hawthorns in North America, seems every botanist that ever lived liked to name a subspecies after themselves, but yeah,looks like one of the hawthorns.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 11:03:09 am »
Coon I only chose black hawthorn because it shows it growing from BC and east into Saskatchewan in 'Native Trees of Canada'. As TR says, there are umpteen different hawthorn sp.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 11:38:38 am »
Hawthornes are very promiscuous.  They interbreed across species lines to the extent that everytime a botanist saw something a little different, they named it a new species.  So, botanist tend to be splitters than lumpers, and they have gone wild with hawthornes.  I gave up trying to learn all the individual species.
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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 11:21:39 am »
Well, we learn something new everyday don't we.  I just new it was a hawthorne of somekind. 

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Re: What species is this?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 12:39:54 pm »
That is exactly what I was going to say...there are so many species/subspecies/varieties of hawthorn that we would just be guessing as to which one it is for sure...definitely a hawthorn though.

Quote from: Texas Ranger on January 05, 2007, 10:53:22 am
Last time I looked there were some 1700 species and sub species of hawthorns in North America, seems every botanist that ever lived liked to name a subspecies after themselves, but yeah,looks like one of the hawthorns.
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