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woodmills1
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January 26, 2003, 05:39:24 am »
If the thing ran better as time went on I would be nearly certain it is related to air. my case dozer is like that if I am not careful when changing filters. hope you can sort this out and slice some boards.
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January 26, 2003, 09:35:45 am »
One additional item to check is the fuel flow from the tank to the filter and or pump. I have had a couple of experiences with obstructions in fuel lines causing poor performance. If the engine is not getting enough fuel for whatever reason it will possibly run at an idle but when a load is applied it can't get enough fuel to run properly. I had a new tractor that had moth sacks (the little brown fuzzy things) in the tank from the factory and caused a lot of grief until we finally discovered the problem.
From what you have said it sounds like a fuel problem of one sort or another.
Good luck!
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flhtc
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January 26, 2003, 09:56:55 am »
To all,
Could not get the mill to start this morning. The battery is a little low from yesterday. It is 14 degrees here today with a cold north wind. I am going to charge the battery today and probably won't work on the mill. Just too cld for me. I fired up this smoker put on some ribs, turkey breast, chicken and ham, threw a log on the fire and am getting ready for the super bowl. The temp is supposed to be better the rest of the week so I took a vacation day for Thursday and will start again then. Thanks for all the help I will keep you posted.
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January 26, 2003, 11:02:36 pm »
WAY TO GO BUCKS!!!
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January 27, 2003, 03:59:59 am »
FLHTC,
I had a similar problem when I bought my used skid steer, it has a water separater and then filter, I cleaned the mud out of the separater, replaced the filter and then ran the battery down trying to get it going again. After a day of messing with it I called New Holland and they went through the bleeding procedure with me. I now have the owners and service manuals. I Highly reccomend purchasing the manuals.
BTW, I am the proud owner of an 03' FLHRI Road King.
Wish it was warm enough to ride it.
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flhtc
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January 27, 2003, 03:54:33 pm »
Wekend_Sawyer,
I wanted an 03 model but opted for the sawmill instead. If the mill ran I'd have the best of both worlds. I didn't have to work at my second job today so I rushed home to work on the mill. I had my wife crank the motor over while I bled a little air out of the fuel lines at the injectors It started up but still does not have any power. When I try to bleed the line for the front injector the motor dies. When I bleed the line for the back injector I can not tell any difference in the way it runs. I would guess that means I only have one cylinder firing. The engine is a Kubota ZB950-NB. I am going to a Kubota dealer on Thursday to order manuals and if need be I'll see if they can bleed the lines for me. There isn't a water seperator on the engine that I can see.
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January 27, 2003, 06:08:49 pm »
As much as I like the "do-it yerselfer" I think you just posted the best idea. Get professional help the first time and pay attention. Try to start with fresh clean fuel. A fuel filter- water seperater is a must on diesels. Get one with the bleeder on the bottom. We have them on the boat for the outboards. Wouldn't be without 'em. Good luck.
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January 27, 2003, 06:25:04 pm »
Flhtc you didn't say if you had fuel flow from the lines you opened at the injecters ( the ones that didn't seem to make a difference). If you had good fuel flow with no air and there was no difference in the way it ran when you opened it, you probably have a dirty or bad injecter. If you have good fuel flow at some lines and not others, you could still have air in the system or are getting air into the system. Then again you could have a rack problem.
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flhtc
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January 30, 2003, 08:37:09 pm »
I took my mill to a local implement dealer this morning. We could not get it to start. All the mechanics were buisy so the owner said if I didn't mind helping he would work on it himself. After bleeding all the lines and having no luck he pulled the fuel filter took a wif of the diesel fuel and decided that was the problem. I drained the old fuel out, went and got some new stuff, filled her up and bled the lines. It took a while but she fired up. It only ran for a couple seconds when the motor really came to life. The fuel was the problem all along. I wished now I would have listened to everyone and changed it out a week ago but I didn't want to go throught the hassle of bleeding the lines again. I brought th emill home set it up and started sawing logs. I only had a couple free hours but I got one small cherry log cut into grade lumber and one large elm cut into pallet material. Now I'm having fun. Thanks to everyone for their help and patience.
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January 30, 2003, 08:46:27 pm »
Glad you got it going. That was a fun challenge for all of us. Welcome to sawmilling. That kind of thing happens to all of us, the neophytes and experienced as well. It's great to have someone to bounce ideas off of, isn't it?
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January 30, 2003, 08:56:55 pm »
Tom,
I can not tell you how frustrated I was when the problems started. I had orders to fill and just knew the engine was terminal. With everyones help I at least got it running. I knew then that the motor wasn't ruined it was just a mater of getting fuel delivery problem solved. That alone made it possible to sleep at night. I would have bet money I had a bad fuel injector. It cost less than 50 dolars to get it fixed. Even though it is only rated at 18 horsepower the diesel cuts better than any 25 horse gas engine I have seen.
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January 30, 2003, 09:08:31 pm »
Sawmilling is fun, isn't it, flhtc.
Some days are diamonds and some days are stones. Sometimes, I too, have whole truckloads of Columbia River Basalt.
I am happy you are now making sawdust.
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January 31, 2003, 04:37:09 am »
flhtc, WHERES THE PICTURES!!
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