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$1,000,000 tree?
« on: October 07, 2006, 06:46:48 pm »
Link to a thread with pictures about a tree in BC.

http://luthierforum.com/index.php?showtopic=306&st=75
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2006, 07:02:14 pm »
That site requires that you join before you can enter.

What's the story?

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2006, 08:49:42 pm »
The site is owned by a fellow that is in the spruce tonewood business. He is in northern BC, I think near Terrace. He has just bought a big spruce that he thinks might be worth $1,000,000 in tonewood.
There are some pictures on the thread but I don't want to steal them.
This is a quote from him:
"If this tree is bearclaw which I think it is will be worth over I million Dollars. One tree 40 Cubic meters.
Now you understand why I protect my fibre Source and brand. "


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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2006, 09:25:38 pm »
I could stand a tree or two like that on my property.  A bearclaw, eh.  Must be some kind of luthier nomenclature.  Worth looking up.   I think I will dive into Google tonight.  :P :)
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2006, 11:42:35 pm »
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I believe "bearclaw" is a term to describe a kind of figure the wood has. A particular kind of curly wood. Sorta looks like a bear clawed it.
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2006, 11:48:05 pm »
I saw some that was called "bear claw" in google and it looked kind of like magnolia does.  Like a topographical map.  I guess it would be caused by the tree having bumps or rings and the saw going through them straight.  Except the Magnolia shows when you flat saw it.   Sound boards are quarter sawed, aren't they?


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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2006, 12:07:45 am »
Googled a bit on Sitka spruce bearclaw
and came up with some hits.
One that indicates it is a grade of Sitka spruce, as here   Bearclaw spruce

Sitka spruce has an identifying mark in the annual ring that is termed a dimple characteristic (as Tom found too), and over the years has been tagged as 'bearclaw' mark (but its a dimple and not an indentation, like it is a small bump on a log if the bark were stripped away, so a bit opposite of a bear clawing the wood, I'd think).  Sitka has long been used as sounding boards in instruments, as well as airplane construction and props. It is noted for its straight grain, clear wood, and high strength to weight ration. (info from da books).  :)  The big Sitka spruce tree available for cutting in a non-protected area might bring some good $$$, but a million?   ::) ::)   Maybe, maybe not.
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2006, 10:00:47 am »
I'd heard of cats paws in wood grain, but never bear claws.  What's next, duck flippers? :D

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2006, 02:58:30 pm »
Yeah, love those lumber adjectives. I have some plum-pudding mahogany. Others I have heard about; popcorn pattern, water fall curl, rope curl, angel pattern, ........
Here's a site that shows some nice plum pudding mahogany;
http://www.huffloudspeaker.com/veneers.html#Anchor-Koa-39778

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2006, 05:02:34 pm »
What about:

Lacewood

Fiddleback

Flaming Birch

Tiger Figured Maple

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Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2006, 05:45:55 pm »
Yeah, love those lumber adjectives. I have some plum-pudding mahogany. Others I have heard about; popcorn pattern, water fall curl, rope curl, angel pattern, ........
Here's a site that shows some nice plum pudding mahogany;
http://www.huffloudspeaker.com/veneers.html#Anchor-Koa-39778
Yeah, we have them up here too, specially for WRC. Things like "Chocolate Cedar", "Shotgun Rot" and one of my least favorite terms, " Wavin Like The Queen Cedar" ;D :D
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2006, 06:10:50 pm »
OH boy - I might have two million growing here - When we were in Alaska in '89, at the state fair in Palmer the boy scouts were giving away Sitka seedlings in tubes for a dollar ea. We brought two home, and they're growing fine - If only I could find a bear to  claw them up a little - Has to be a grizzly I 'spose???
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2006, 07:06:51 pm »
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2006, 11:39:35 pm »
Interesting....... back in the early eightys I helped build a wood fired power house on Prince of Whales Island just west of Ketchacan Alaska.  The wood fired power house was intended to power the existing sawmill that sawed Sitka Spruce and Hemlock.  The spruce was all sold in cant form to the Japanese.   The mill operation loaded ship after ship of old growth spruce that were sent to Japan.    I can remember some of the spruce being about chest high and having to be split by chansaw to get it on the mill.    Unfortunately the loans went sour and the mill was shut down a year after we got the power plant up and going.    Wish I had some of those logs today...... :o
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2006, 11:50:21 pm »
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In the 70's I lived on that same POW island. North end near Pt. Baker. We had an honest 9' spruce right off the trail in town. Old growth wood everywhere. Just a beautiful place there.
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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2006, 11:59:07 pm »
This is getting me all excited.  The "big industry" sawmill up the valley got some large 26-36 inch spruce on a trade.  They did not know what to do with them (only  ponderosa pine and doug fir for them).  I asked about the logs and now they are headed my way.  

They have been under sprinklers for a year.  This month they will get milled.

I promise two things:

1: pictures ;D
2: If I get any that have been touched by a bear appendages, I'll buy a round at the pig roast! 8) 8) )

Any ideas on special milling for spruce? ???  These fancy cants are vertical grain right? ??? :) :D :)

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2006, 12:20:02 am »
Vertical grain for sure. The really particular tonewoods guys will cut logs into rounds then split them so the run perfectly with the grain (no runout) and then resaw.
8"+ wide by24"long will work for guitars


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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2006, 11:13:49 am »
Hey swampdonkey, whats up with the flaming birch, does it talk with a lisp, and use limp wristed gestures??? ???

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2006, 01:18:23 pm »
Nah Man!!

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Re: $1,000,000 tree?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2006, 01:40:11 pm »
Flaming birch is dark as cherry when finished, and when in log form the color is pink like cherry wood. When it's peeled for veneer and you get at the transition between heart and 'sap' you get a sheet of veneer that looks like flames against the white wood. At least that's what I call flaming birch. ;)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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