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Offline 9shooter

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New saw blues
« on: April 06, 2006, 04:37:27 pm »
Just got my new 385xp  broke in and started to mill a log. Saw quit. Isn't getting any gas. I poured a little gas in the spark hole and it fires right up. The dealer said that the gas line may have come loose or have a crack in it, but I don't see any problems when I looked. I sure hate to drive the 30 miles to take it in.(60 round trip) Youse guys have any ideas?
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 05:40:45 pm »
Get the wife to take it.

Well that's one idea.  ;D

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2006, 07:03:44 pm »
WHaaaaaaa, I was afraid that was my only choice. I was thinking about pulling the carb apart, but I'd sure hate to cause warranty problems. It's the first beautiful day around these parts, darn near 70. Sure wanted to make some boards. I cut 6-7 24" wide planks off of a 40" white oak last week and then it started raining. Went steelhead fishing. Guess I better get back out on the stream.
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2006, 07:58:00 pm »
It was nice today but snow tomorrow again. :-\ 

I take my saws ta Chester the Chainsaw Jester. Thats a 7 hour drive.  Then again maybe its Judies whitefish fries and salad that makes me drive that far. ;D
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 08:54:42 pm »
Jeff , my 372xp cracked a fuel line where you can't see it. pull up from the carb side through the housing. I'll bet its cracked. I cut mine off and reattached for the season then bought a new one. They give you more than enough.
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 09:05:12 pm »
just look between the 2 half of the saw and make sure the fuel line doesnot have a bend or twisted  cutting the fuel supply off , one thing I have seen on a few 372's was the fuel line is so long that the fuel fiter would sit on the bottom of the tank and have a kink in it and block the fuel off , I just shorten the line line and no more trouble,

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 09:32:46 pm »
The problem is the way the fuel line curls around. What can happen is it can curl and float around to the top of the fill cap when laying on its side. Run a few minutes and it dies being out of the gas. That was my experience with my Husky 365 dying. So, with some creative twisting I fixed it for my saw mill.

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 12:58:12 am »
I notice it when cutting on the stump when falling a tree with saw on its side you could hear it try and lean out because of the fuel filter pinching the fuel line off

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 01:39:19 am »
Welllll, I took the blame thing into the dealer. They did tell me over the phone that they have had some new saws that had some bad fuel lines. Someone at the factory used some old hose, or something. New saws with dry rot & cracked fuel lines, imagine that. I had just hooked the saw up to the alaskan mill, when I started it, it ran for about 20 sec. and stopped. I got it to turn over a few beats by chokeing it but it was basicly dead in the water from that point on. Wouldn't run in any position. The dealer checked it out and said I had plenty of gas up to the carb, and plenty of spark so it looks like the carb is junk. Or maybe just clogged. Maybe someone at the factory put some chewing gum in it for a prank or something? I took my three yr. old and his 5 yr. old brother along, so I had plenty of entertainment for the drive. It's good to get them young'uns oogling big saws and other such manly tools at an early age.
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2006, 11:25:16 am »
> I had just hooked the saw up to the alaskan mill, when I started it, it ran for about 20 sec.
> and stopped.

Not a recommended starting procedure because it floods the saw, from my experience.

You should start the saw, let it idle for a few minutes while getting hot, turn it off, and then attach it. Once you are using it, starting it on its side is no problem. Just something I learned using my chainsaw mill, fwiw.

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2006, 09:02:22 am »
Ya know....for the price you have to pay for this stuff these days you would think that you wouldn't have to worry about "old fuel line or chewing gum in the carb"

It kind of tarnishes the relationship you have with the saw right from the start.

I love my 038 cuz the first time I used it I was limbing out a standing oak and I dropped the thing about 25'. Naturally it fell heavy end first and I thought for sure I was all done that day. When I climbed down there it was. It kind of made a dent in the gound, but there it was, still idling, waiting for me to get it and get back to work. It was a love affair from there on out :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I got a couple of ex-wives that could have taken a lesson from that saw :D :D :D
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2006, 11:00:49 am »
Women don't take kindly to being dropped from 25'  :D
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2006, 11:01:49 am »

I got a couple of ex-wives that could have taken a lesson from that saw :D :D :D

 :D :D :D :D being married twice & single again I can relate to that 8) :D :D :D
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2006, 10:23:08 pm »
Ricardo, In regards to my earlier comment; What I had done was saw up 4-5 large blocks of knot wood cause they are a pain in the a** to split with a maul. I then switched from the 24" bar to the 42" bar,hooked it up to the mill and topped off the tanks. I then started the saw in the upright position and let it run for about 10 seconds figuring that it was already well warmed up. As soon as I turned it on it's side it stopped whithin 10 seconds. No go after that no matter what position. I dumped the sawgas and pulled out the filter. Couldn't see anything wrong. Pulled the plug and put a little gas in the spark hole, saw fired right up and then stopped. Choked it and never could get it to fire. Figured the carb had a problem. Thats what the dealer thinks. I guess I'll find out Monday a.m. I sure need it, I got a big boxelder to drop and I told the landowner it would be taken care of on Monday. I loaned my back-up saw to the brother-in-law, and my back-up tp the back-up saw is going into the shop for some badly needed helicoils. Jeeze, at this rate I might have to work on the honey-do list.
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 11:19:42 pm »
I feel I owe it to youse guys to report out on the 385 problem. I remember telling my son to top off the saw before loading it in the truck. Turns out he apparently put some chain oil in the gas. :-[ :-[ :-[ As soon as I turned the saw on it's side the slug of oil filled the carb. I wasn't sure if I pulled the saw apart if it would mess up my warrenty so I had to pay the dealer a service fee and hang my head in shame. Durnit!!
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2006, 11:35:43 pm »
Well that kinda reminds me of something my Dad once did to my ole tractor a few years or so ago.


I thought it was kinda of odd when he said that the radiator was holding  a lot of water but I never really though twice about it at the time.  That is until  it went dead  right after I cranked it. Only then did I realize that he had  filled the diesel tank with water instead of checking the radiator.  :)
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2006, 12:28:37 am »
 :D :D :D :D :D It sure is tough to get good help. Now 9shooter, ya sure it wuz yer son? That is the story I always get when buddy comes in with a dead saw, it's either the kid or the brudder in law that messed up ;D
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2006, 07:25:07 am »
Thanks for letting us know, it can and does happen.

At least you can get back to work now.

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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2006, 09:48:29 am »
When I first started running diesels, I filled my truck up with gas over a 1 - 1 ½ year period probably 3, maybe 4 times. I got real good at removing the tanks. It was impossible to run a siphon hose into it - myself and several mechanics tried to no avail.
The thing that threw me off was all of the diesle nozzles around here are green. When I would hit the road, sometimes the green nozzles weren't diesel at all. Everytime I did it I was on the road and couldn't have been at a worse time.  ::)
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Re: New saw blues
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2006, 07:18:21 pm »
I feel I owe it to youse guys to report out on the 385 problem. I remember telling my son to top off the saw before loading it in the truck. Turns out he apparently put some chain oil in the gas. :-[ :-[ :-[ As soon as I turned the saw on it's side the slug of oil filled the carb. I wasn't sure if I pulled the saw apart if it would mess up my warrenty so I had to pay the dealer a service fee and hang my head in shame. Durnit!!
   Your son is not the first one to do that nor will he be the last.My father did that twice in one week and he had ran saws since they first hit the market,in years BA[before Al]  Sh--,er things happen,so to speak ;D

 


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