Author Topic: skip tooth (Read 1472 times)

parrisw · « **on:** March 16, 2006, 12:24:15 am »

Whats the advantage of running a skip tooth chain, I have a 288xp husky with a 28" bar at the moment, with a standard low kick chain, non skip. Will it cut better faster with a skip tooth?

Thanks

Will

Ianab · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:58:24 am »

Skip tooth chains come into their own when you are running a really long bar.
They give you less teeth in the cut, so you dont need as much power, and have more space to clear the chips produced from by the long cut.
Your saw and bar combo is pretty sensible, I dont think skip chain would give you any advantage.
If you wanted to hang a much longer bar off your saw, then skip chain would be the way to go.

Cheers

Ian

parrisw · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:56:15 am »

Thanks, I also have a Larger bar for it, a 37" and non skip chain, although I don't use it very often, most things I cut the 28" is just fine.

Thanks

Will

barbender · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:25:41 am »

From what I've read, any bar 24" or longer will benefit from a skip tooth chain. Is your chain acually safety chain or does it just have bumper drive links? If you go to skip chain from a safety chain you better be ready to cut some wood

. I actually picked up a 24" skip for my 2171 that I'll be using for the first time today, I'll let you know how it cuts.

parrisw · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2006, 10:07:45 am »

Ya let me know, I really dont know excatly what chain I got, the guy just made it up for me. I ve never really bothered to learn much about saws before, until I got my newer saw. So far its impressive how it is right now. POWER compared to my old one.

leweee · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:00:56 pm »

Will..... check out this chain
http://www.oregonchain.com/pdf/chain/72LG_FB_0403.pdf

it will make that walkerized Husky 288xp sit up & take notice

Full comp. will cut faster than skip if you have the power(walkerized)

wear your PPE & Play Safe & have Fun

fishhuntcutwood · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:29:49 pm »

I run full skip on most of my stuff, most of the time. I usually run 24"+. Full skip just makes sense for all the reasons Ian mentioned. He's spot on.

And yeah, if you're running safety chain, ditch it and get full skip or full comp, it doesn't matter, you'll be cuttig circles around your old self!

Jeff

Alta · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:15:56 pm »

My advice would be to buy a loop and do your own side by side comparison - its cheap, you'll have another spare chain, and you'll find out how skip tooth really cuts. Then post your results here

parrisw · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2006, 12:44:10 am »

Cool thanks guys, the guys I cut with all the time are already annoyed at me cause I can outcut them 2:1 since I got this walkerized 288xp, now they will be really annoyed when I outcut them 3 or 4:1

parrisw · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2006, 12:48:10 am »

"leweee" thanks for that link, so if I tell, the guy at the shop I want a oregon chain 73LG/JG thats all I need to know?? its 3/8 .o58 chain I need.

Thanks

Will

leweee · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2006, 11:23:12 am »

Will.... 73LG is the( standard) or full comp. version
73JG is the (full skip)version

I would try the 73LG on the 28" bar & 73JG on the 37".

rebocardo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2006, 08:06:00 pm »

I notice a big difference in oak with full skip, so all my 28" chain is either full skip or semi-skip. I usually get the 30RCS from Baileys, though I try other stuff too.

parrisw · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2006, 11:50:23 pm »

So the 73lg is non skip version?? or semi skip. Sorry for the dumb questions

leweee · « **Reply #13 on:** March 18, 2006, 01:30:17 pm »

Will.... here is a link that might help

BTW there are no dumb Questions

http://www.madsens1.com/Oregon2.htm

yes 73LG is standard or full compliment.....cutter , tie strap, cutter, tie strap, etc.
73JP is full skip.....cutter ,2 tie straps, cutter, 2 tie straps, etc.

Oregon chain loop# 73LG92E for your 28" bar.
(super guard)Tm 3/8 pitch, full comp., 92 drive links, .058 gauge.

Oregon chain loop# 73JG119E for your 37" bar
(super gaurd)Tm 3/8 pitch, full skip, 119 drive links, .058 gauge,

Hope that helps

parrisw · « **Reply #14 on:** March 18, 2006, 10:53:53 pm »

Yes that helps immensly. Thanks allot.

Will

barbender · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2006, 09:58:17 am »

I finally got to run my Jred 2171 with a 24" bar and skip chain (Oregon 73JP) I was using it cutting aspen on the landing, and it cut really nice, probably a little faster than full comp, and it is a lot faster to sharpen since there aren't as many teeth. I'm happy with it.

SawTroll · « **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2006, 06:18:50 am »

Quote from: fishhuntcutwood on March 16, 2006, 01:29:49 pm

... And yeah, if you're running safety chain, ditch it and get full skip or full comp, it doesn't matter, you'll be cuttig circles around your old self!
...

What different people refer to as "safety" chain varies a lot.

The ones that should be ditched are only those with bumper tie straps between the cutters.

The ones with just a small ramp on the driver, directly in front of the raker, (Oregon LP, BP, VP etc - and probably also Stihl RSC3) are usually fully servicable chains (I don't quite know about the Carlton/WP variants, as both the ramps and the rakers look larger to me than on the Oregons). The combined size of the ramps and rakers are not much larger than the rakers alone on chains like LG and RS/RSC.
Some of them may even cut better than their "non-safety" counterparts when bore cutting, because the rakers themselves are smaller and doesn't hit the wood in the same way at the nose of the bar.....

snowman · « **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2006, 06:35:58 am »

Like anything theres a tradeoff, skip tooth is far superior in clean wood, falling and bucking.On the landing, I prefer full comp, yes its slower to sharpen but on the other hand you can run full comp duller and still cut, skip tooth needs to stay SHARP to do its thing.

TexasTimbers · « **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2006, 06:43:33 am »

I ran a full skip (Oregon) and a full comp (Carlton) cutting the osage with a 32" bar on a 372XP and the full comp seemed to do much better. Now you are going to ask me specifics about the chain and I don't know them off hand. The full skip has a "72" stamped on it. There is alot to learn about chain it seems.

sawguy21 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2006, 10:40:00 am »

The 72 just means 3/8 pitch .050 guage.

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Author Topic: skip tooth (Read 1472 times)