Author Topic: Giant Sequoia’s (Read 2147 times)

KGNC · « **on:** February 20, 2006, 03:06:36 pm »

Need some advise.
My 10 year old son was looking at my Bailey's catalog and saw that they had Giant Sequoia seedlings. He decided that's what we needed, even after I explained that his great grand kids would still not have the giant tree he wants.
Since I was ordering some sawchains and other stuff from them I spent 20 bucks for the 20 trees. Now I've got them and am looking for advise for planting and growing.
I was considering a southernly facing slope that has good drainage but some west side shade and doesn't receive a lot of the evening sun, but I have other locations. The elevation is about 3600'.
Did a web search and can't really find that anyone has had any sucess in the southern appalachians.
Does anyone have any experience with these trees? Any recommendation on perpaing the soil? Any help would be welcomed.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2006, 04:07:25 pm »

I'm no expert on them, but I don't think your climate is going to be suitable for their growth. Probably too dry, they come from the 450 mile long coastal 'Fog Belt' of the west coast. A seedling nursery was even selling them out of Quebec a few years back and I tried a couple. They died even before winter came.

Tillaway · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2006, 04:39:24 pm »

Sequoia’s come from the Sierra Nevada and do well in a dry high elevation setting with deep winter snow pack. Try them on the dryer sites, they are planted off site in Northern California interior mountains and do well.

Coastal Redwood do better in the fog belt but grow about anywhere in western Oregon or Washington if you plant them... just not quite as big. The fog condenses on the needles in the crown and serves to water them through the growing season even if it doesn't rain along the coast.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2006, 05:56:59 pm »

ok, Sequoiadendron, my mistake

KGNC · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2006, 06:25:51 pm »

Well, I do have some Rhododendron that are almost big enough to make lumber.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2006, 06:33:39 pm »

I'll see your Rhododendron and raise you a 6 inch dbh mountain maple.

KGNC · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2006, 06:59:24 pm »

"Mountain Maple" is that the same as Striped Maple? If It is I got one of those. If not, I fold.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2006, 07:08:01 pm »

Nope not the same, but I actually ment 'Striped' I know where there is a whole hill top of striped maple, looks like a stand a bamboo.

But in the 'So how big you want'm' thread there is a big mountain maple. We usually only get them about 1 inch diameter because the moose terrorize it so bad.

I cut down a couple of 4 inch striped maple last spring when thinning, and my intensions were to leave them. But my mind was telling me I had to leave the balsam fir and red maple instead. Then the dang moose came in and scraped the bark off most them maples. I've got to do something about them things.

KGNC · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2006, 07:42:45 pm »

I was looking it up, The Audubon field guide says that Striped Maple is allso called "moosewood" and Mountain Maple is also "Moose Maple"

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2006, 07:54:30 pm »

Yes the dendro book calls striped maple moose wood. I grew up with calling it moose wood locally. They sure love the stuff, that's a fact.

asy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2006, 03:10:06 am »

I just bought some Redwood seeds too.

Got some Giant, and some Californian ones.

Gonna see how well they do here in the hot part of the world!

asy

iain · « **Reply #11 on:** February 21, 2006, 02:58:34 pm »

They grow all over the place here
dont kow if that help's

first time on Ask the Forester Board

iain

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #12 on:** February 21, 2006, 03:01:18 pm »

Iain, sounds like your describing a crop of weeds.

<<===== I await my prize

iain · « **Reply #13 on:** February 21, 2006, 04:17:20 pm »

What i am saying is that they grow in a variety situations

bleedin eeyore's they all the same where ever you find then

iain

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #14 on:** February 21, 2006, 04:55:02 pm »

I think my latitude on the globe is too harsh for some of those non natives.

iain · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2006, 05:33:25 pm »

I think you get far to much latitude as it is

iain

crtreedude · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2006, 05:48:42 pm »

I once had a person contact me wanting teak sees for their greenhouse. I had to let them down gentle by telling them that a teak seedling can grow up to 1/2" A DAY with the right conditions for the first few years.

That would be 15' in about a year, by the second year - 30 feet tall.

Not really suitable for greenhouses I am afraid - sounds like "Little Shop of Horrors" to me.

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:04:09 pm »

Well now, you must know by now that some people have to 'see for themselves'.

Dale Hatfield · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:10:41 pm »

If ya really want to please the little guy ,buy him a Dawn Redwood tree.
By the time he is out of college it ought to be a pretty good sized tree.
I'm not sure that its really a Redwood, I think its a Chinese import or some crap. But its wood is red in color light in weight, and bends like its made of rubber.
We cut one down for a home owner a few years ago . First one i ever cut. Hauled logs out and carved some milled some . You can put a 2x4 over ya shoulder and watch it bend. It had pretty big growth rings 1/2 some bigger some smaller. Now that i know em i see em all round.
I have seen them for sale in the nursery flyer's that get sent out this time of year. Claim its one of the oldest trees around. who knows.
Dale

SPIKER · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2006, 05:07:41 pm »

I actually brought back a bunch of the sequoa cones and they were/are not that impressive pretty small for such a tree that grows from them (I got to spend a weekend up in the park in North CA back in 92 what a place and man what a bunch of trees ! I got a few good camera shots SOMEPLACE with my at the time GF posing in front of one of the sequas she looked like a barbie doll seting next to a 300 yr old oak!

the redwoods were just un-photographable to get into perspective. I took 4 or 5 shots from about 100+ feet away to get base to crown using my 35 mm camera, this tree I think was well 100's of feet high with a base in the 8+' dia. the redwood pine cones now3 those would kill ya if it hit ya from top ! one I saw comming out being carried by a guy was a GIANT thing looked to be 18+" long and maybe 6" dia. the sequas pine cone was maybe 1~1.5" long by 1" in dia almost egg shapped. I looked close to the visitor areas to try & find one of those redwood ones no luck. only a handfull of the sequas cones...

markM

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