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Hard water white pine removal
« on: February 11, 2006, 11:31:55 pm »


I've been waiting since last Fall to drop this puppy.


Some nice wood ...


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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2006, 11:41:03 pm »
Do you get to keep the logs Kevin?
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2006, 11:51:18 pm »
That is a nice tree! 8)

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2006, 06:38:23 am »
Yes Jeff, the logs were hauled across the lake to another cottage where I'll bring the mill in the Spring and saw them into 4/4 for kitchen cupboards.



There's never a problem attracting an audience when they think there's a chance of dropping a large tree on a cottage.  ;D

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2006, 06:55:05 am »
What kind of ice thickness do you have up there? Our inland lakes only had 8 or so inches of marginal ice a couple weeks ago. I am sure that has changed since the weather has turned much colder.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2006, 06:58:06 am »


I had to save a hand made stone wall at the red arrow.  ::)

Lots of ice Dana but we had to make an ice road before skidding the logs out due to the slush.
I couldn't leave the trail at all for the slush.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2006, 07:21:13 am »
This is the German lady that hired me, Mary Anne.


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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2006, 10:17:04 am »
Must be a very special mill to cut them right into kitchen cabinets!!! I hope it's patented!  ;D ;)


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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2006, 10:27:58 am »
Keven,
I usually ask new customers where they want der new skylight. Da customer normally gives me dat same look.  :o  But it's a great crowd pleaser.   ;D
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2006, 12:43:17 pm »
Nice pics and a neat story, Kevin. Great tree. Good job.   8)

Hey, Chet.  How many skylights have ya made?   ;D

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2006, 12:48:20 pm »
Standing next to it sure improves the reference to size.   Wow!  that's a big one.
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2006, 05:06:22 pm »

There's never a problem attracting an audience when they think there's a chance of dropping a large tree on a cottage.  ;D

I'd pay money for a video of that 8) 8) 8)

Chet ...I like the skylight suggestion 8)

Kevin ....great job & thanks for sharing those pics 8)
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2006, 05:47:06 pm »
     The pictures are great.
     Now if i did it the tree would have gone throught the ice.




     Thanks Mr Mom

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2006, 06:25:39 pm »
Kevin, my mother talked my poor old grandfather into dropping, bucking and skidding out by horse on river ice, 3 big old pine and their logs. She wanted cupboard to from the pine. Well the pine laid too long in spring and when they were sawed that nice pine all got green stain and borer peck and the wood was sent to the bomb fire pile.  ::) Hope ya take care of them pine right quick in the spring.  ;)

Great show and pics. I can see the same crowd around here with out stretched goose knecks over seeing such a job. ;D :D

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2006, 06:38:43 pm »
A tree that big falling onto the ice really gives you an idea of how strong the ice can  be.

What did you do with the limbs, leave them where they lay for some post ice out fish habitat ???
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2006, 07:37:09 pm »
We loaded up the limbs on the log arch and took them across the lake with the logs where they will be burnt, every last little stick and there's a bunch, we also raked the ice.

It would have been better to pile the stuff in the bush but it would be considered dumping.
It's like hunting for moose, all the fun ends when you put one down.  ;D
The logs will be on the mill probably in March, all I need is one nice day.

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2006, 11:19:23 pm »
Kevin,  what was the length and diameter of the tree.  How many logs of what length did you get?  How many bdft do you estimate that you will get out of that single tree??  We need specs....
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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2006, 07:17:35 am »
Kevin

What type of machine did you use to pull the log with and on what type of sleigh. I am logging now . I cut 45 logs yesterday all spruce and fir. I use a VK540 Yamaha Snowmobile and a home built sleigh. I have to travel about 14 klm one way. Half of this distance is over the frozen sea ice. Logs are getting harder to get in this region. If I can cut and haul 300 this winter I will be lucky. Hoping to buy 400 from another guy. These I will raft and tow home by boat.

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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2006, 07:38:20 am »
Brad, looking at 30"dbh nice and straight, a quick guess on the length would be 75 ft.
I think we had six logs, didn't estimate bf but I guessed at 160, 6" fence boards in one log.
The bottom logs would go around 1450 lbs.

Paul, that's the Argo.
The larger version is the CENTAUR which would be better suited for what you do.

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Re: Hard water white pine removal
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2006, 03:03:10 pm »
Thanks Kevin.  Glad to see that you're working hard and performing for an audience at the same time.  We have many spruce that size on our woodlot and we try to get as many 16 footers out as possible.  Seems like that is what sells the best around here.

Would like to see some more pics of that argo?  What size of engine does it have?  What style of cletes does the tracks have.  I am building a tracked skidder unit out of an old Subaru DL front wheel drive car.  Does that argo's drive system drive from the front or the rear?

Thanks in advance.
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