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Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« on: October 27, 2002, 07:42:53 pm »
I would like to see if anyone can identify this tree only by the leaves.  This is not a contest and I do not know the answer.  It is a wild tree but I will tell you what part of the country after I have some suggestions so as to not bias your answer.  I have a suspicion as to what it is but wanted your opinion before I say.

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2002, 07:56:27 pm »
Let's try the picture thing again!


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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2002, 08:18:21 pm »
I'm guessing a member of the Hawthorne family.

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2002, 08:21:17 pm »
My guess is that it's some sort of Hickory. I'll guess that it is a Shagbark Hickory. :P
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2002, 09:22:09 pm »
I think both of you guys are wrong-------it's some kinda plum.
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2002, 09:23:47 pm »
Carolina cherry laurel
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2002, 10:02:45 pm »
The answers are more varied than I thought!  This particular tree is located in the Edwards Plateau area of Texas at my deer lease near Kerrville, TX.  It is located on 1,000 acres and is not near any old homesteads or anything.

I was wondering if it could be Escarpment Black Cherry (Prunus serotina var. eximia )?  I can not find any place on the net that has a close up picture of this tree.  They are fairly uncommon and no one that I know can identify it.

I was out there today and was planning to take better pictures of the leaves and the bark but when I went to take the pictures I realized I didn't have a darn memory card in the camera!

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2002, 10:08:10 pm »
What is the best way to positively identify this tree?  I guess I could cut it down and see what the wood looks like!  I would get in all kinds of crud from the property owner so that is out.

What are some other characteristics of Black Cherry?

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2002, 10:54:26 am »

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2002, 02:04:49 pm »
Give a picture of the bark and leaves.  You may want to try and find a book called "Trees, Shrubs, and woody Vines of the Southwest" by Robert A. Vines, at the library.
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2002, 09:03:48 pm »
Well, it doesn't matter what book you look at, unless it tells you it's a hickory, it's wrong. Those are hickory leaves if I ever saw one ::)   Maybe it's a hybrid Cherry Hickory tree called a Hickerry or a Chickory. ;D
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2002, 07:12:21 am »
Ah, senior momemt, Charlie?  Obviously not a hickberry, alcoholic beverage producers have eliminated them from the US.  Competititve to their product. :P
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2002, 06:31:18 pm »
I looked in my National Audubon North American Trees field guide.  It does resemble a plum from what I can see.  A picture of the bark would tell all.  This is one of the best books I've seen to identify trees.  It has the bark, leaves ( green and after they turn), fruit and flowers.  I think I paid $15 for it.

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2002, 12:04:33 am »
How big is it? Looks like a Mexican PLum. I have this kind of tree on my place. If I were home I could probably help out a little more. Go to the A&M web site and do a search on trees. They have a listing of all the native trees of Texas. MAy take a little while to go through all of them, but it is a good place to learn about what is in your area. Can't remember the web adress right now. Will be home in a week if you still don't have an answer. LeeB
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2002, 02:38:04 pm »
Love them Audubon field guides!

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2002, 02:43:00 pm »
I keep them handy. Ya never now when your goona need a field guide or a deleware prison hat. ;D
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2002, 10:45:15 pm »
The web adress for Texas A&M is tamu.org. Don't remeber what the actual site name is. LeeB
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2002, 05:43:59 am »
Jeff, I had to stop lending mine out.  I never get them back and I even have my name in the dam thing.  I think I've bought 3 so far.  They are great books.

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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2002, 01:15:10 pm »
Good for you. I would not think of lending mine out any more then I would my underwear. ;D

Mine are right above me withing easy reach, and if I am going to the cabin or a different part of the state I always grab my eastern field guide to go with me. I hope to travel sometime west of the Mississippi then I'll throw in the western too.
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Re: Can you identify this tree only by the leaves?
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2002, 02:03:28 pm »
Mine is the North American Trees one.  I never saw the East or West one??  Sounds like I need to take a ride to the book store.   I guess I learned the hard way with lending stuff.

 


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