12 V Auto starters used for other applications- modified to accept pully

[Buzz-sawyer]

Sorry I missed you and Kirk at DanGs. I was just down the road sawing 34" poplar. I thought yall' were still at Toms so I headed home. ................ DanG and me went to Hooties yesterday and got some ideas about all this. Next time, ya got to go to Mr Hooties!

Well I am sorry we didnt see you......we will have to make a point of getting together next time for sho

[woodbowl]

Check out a Tomy lift motor.  They may have the extra bearing you need, or just get a spare end cap for the other end and grind or drill a hole to line up with the bearing there.  The motor on the hydraulic pump of my Woodmizer has
a sealed ball bearing in the end cap.

Now that you mentioned it, I remember my own 12 volt hydraulic power unit that I got from northern tool Note:Please read the Forestry Forum's postion on this company, going out. I took out the starter motor and took it to the shop. It had two end caps and a slot type mate for the pump.             

Hey wod bowl.those old fords dont need to be swapped....I have one powering the winch dor turning logs on the carriage.......

Buzz, ........ you got a few pics of that?

[Buzz-sawyer]

Woodbowl
I believe I have posted pics of the winch.look inmy gallery..there are like 300  pics in there

[woodbowl]

Woodbowl
I believe I have posted pics of the winch.look inmy gallery..there are like 300 pics in there

I looked for it but I couldn't see for lookin'.

[woodbowl]

This is what I'm trying to do. I want to assist my existing 1/2 hp motor in the dragback mode. This is my old smaller up/down motor that served as the experiment. It didn't work well. The Rpm's and power differences fought each other.
    I want to try and seperate these two factors by using a starter motor to drag with while the power feed motor is in idle mode.





This is the starter that I plan to use. I need to take the gear off and put on a pully. Anybody know what type starter this goes to?





The gear is off and ready for a pully. The bendix is jammed in the engaged position so that the shaft would be out at all times.





Pully is on and ready to test.

[getoverit]

what I really want to know is how you talked the wife into letting you work on this on the kitchen counter?  Mine would be nagging about that, even with the cardboard to protect the tile

On the other hand, if you have figured out a way to isolate the poles in the starter to allow reversal of direction, I'd love to see the pictures of how this is done

[woodbowl]

     Now ken, you wutn't supposed to notice my work bench! It was in and out before the wife could find out.
      I sure don't know how to isolate the poles either. I took tried to take another small starter apart to do this but I could tell that once the brushes came off the comentator, it would never go back together with the tools that I've got.
    Other starters come apart quite well, but I still don't know what to isolate or how. Slabs would know.   HEY SLABS ...............

[Fla._Deadheader]

 I just used 2 sets of insulated brushes. You have 2 sets of brushes. One is insulated, one is bare.  De-solder and insulate the bare ones, or replace with insulated.

  Oh, did I mention that you can use insulated brushes in place of the grounded or bare ones ?? 

  Think outboard motor starter motors, for V-6 engines. Use Chrysler if you can find them. EASY to reverse with above method. 

[woodbowl]

Did you say I could use insulated brushes?    

Now that the brushes are insulated ..... what now? Don't they ground to the housing? Shouldn't they be insulated away from the housing and ran out to the power source? Switching both wires on the batt terminals should reverse rotation right?

What about the housing that gets grounded when it is bolted down? Is anything affected?

[Fla._Deadheader]

 Olen, Olen, Olen

  I figgered you was smart enuff to unnerstand that insulated MEENS insulated from the CASE and anything touching the case  

  Do I gotta fly back and show ya how to do this 

  Once ya use insulation washers where the ground brushes are fastened, the case is bolted to the engine with no problem. Pull a starter apart and take a look see. 

[woodbowl]

Your gona' fly back and help me fix it? ......... Oh Boy!    Don't forget to bring my CR coffee. 

Some of these smaller foreign starters I've got are a nightmare to get into. Especially around the brushes. They don't have an end cap and once the brushes are off the commentator I doubt that I'll be able to get them back together with my tools. The only reason I'm trying to make them work is because they have a shaft out the front and not a bell. Old Ford starters are few and far between in these parts. 

[Fla._Deadheader]

 Outboard motors.     Brushes are on the END of the communtator 

[woodbowl]

    Here's what I've been doing today. I've mounted a starter motor in hopes of having a homemade dragback. The normal feed motor is used to saw with and the starter motor is used to dragback only. I suppose I could kick in the regular return motor at the same time for extra power. Will have to wait and see. Planning on making a test run tomorrow.
 
   The discussion about reversing directions of a starter motor will be a later project. Possibly an up/down.

[highpockets]

Woodbowl, you are a man after my heart.  If you'd move a little closer to P Hill, we can make some awesome machines.  That photo looks like a proto type of a proto type of a proto type and something I'd do.  Hang in there, you'll get it.  I know that deadheader has you moving in the right direction but if I can help, let me know.   

[woodbowl]

Highpockets, what kind of inventin' have you done over the years? I bet you've got some good ideas to share.

[highpockets]

Woodbowl,  I've never invented anything that I could patent. I had some ideas on an electronic powered refrigeration unit but never followed through.  I was raised by my mother after my father left. She had four brothers that pretty much saw that I had things to do and some tools. My first project was probably a motorized tricycle when I was 10 or 11.  Two uncles were electricians and plumbers so I got an experience early.  I built go-carts with Wisconsin engines and truck transmissions and then got into drag racing on a very low budget.  We had an old man who was the daddy of the local radio and t.v. shop. He and I hung pretty close.  One claim to fame is that I put the first known fax machine on a drilling rig in the north sea. I tied it to a 1 KW single sideband radio to talk to the shore. Worked well.  I just completed a cnc wood router.  Mainly I am a junk junky.  I just have to know about things. 

Here is bertha. She is supposed to go get dozer out of a bog hole later in the day.

[sandman2234]

You could have posted pictures of your CNC router, and left Bertha to catch a nap before she had to go to work. Getting that Cat out of the muck would be a job for Julia, but not a problem for Bertha.
    Don't let Highpockets fool you, he uses magic to make jewels out of junk.
        David from jax