Global Warming

[TexasTimbers]

All of you who have all these numbers and formulas and chemical compositions in your head and are reciting them from rote have my everlasting respect.  

Where are we getting the carbon to make the other poisons? 

It comes from Google.

[Gary_C]

Gary C,  I know of two liquids that will burn/explode as a liquid.  Trying mixing some liquid oxygen with some liquid hydrogen some time.  You will be in for a big suprise to say the least.

Doug, I do not claim to know and from what I understand nobody fully understands much about what actually happens when you mix cryogenic oxygen and cryogenic hydrogen but I am sure it would be a very violent reaction, beginning with a rapid phase change from liquid to gas and then a huge explosion fueled by the ever expanding supply of hydrogen and oxygen.  It's not something that's high on my list of things to try.  

But even so, I suspect the burn occurs in the gas phase and not the liquid phase. The phase change just adds more violence (and fuel) to the reaction.  

[moonhill]

How about the 2nd actors strike thats close to the end of the world.

As for global warming my opinion is much the same as Maestro put it, just for the record. 

And the chemical reaction going on in your engine, you can travel faster than anytime in history, that's saying something.  Is it worth it?  Tim B.

[SwampDonkey]

Ah, thanks Dodgy. My formula was incomplete. Oh, well. Back to the Chem lab.

Let me pull this apart.

C7H8 (C6H5CH3)

C = 14 x 12 = 168
H = 16 x 1 = 16
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                   184

168/184 = 91%  ah! so it's actually somewhere in the middle depending on how many moles of each molecule there is. Not determined by the presence of one molecule over the other. 

So 34 % of 91 % plus 66 % of 85% is 87% ?   grasping hairs here.

Dang, I hope ya washed that hand before preparing supper.

[thedeeredude]

Pour a lb of rat poison in a swimming pool. 

Don't go near jeff's pool!     

[fencerowphil (Phil L.)]

Maybe Jeff is trying to get  revenge on somebody for something they already put in that pool.

[moonhill]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080714/sc_livescience/hurricaneseasongettinglonger
Here's more faith based political beliefs.  Relentless they are.  A storm pops up and the media goes nuts and we watch the storm pass and fade.  In the past couple of years they predicted serious hurricane seasons that flopped, here they go again.   Tim B.

[TexasTimbers]

Tim you may have linked the wrong article, I didn't see any bible-thumping reasons for wierd weather in the article at all. Maybe there was a sentence and I missed it.

I hope this thread doesn't get on thin ice too with another pointless religious/secular debate. This has been a fun thread.

Maybe you ought to consider not linking the article you intended to. Just a friendly suggestion from a fellow member - not meant as anything else.

[Dodgy Loner]

TT, I think that by "faith-based" political beliefs, he was referring to the fact that you would have to have faith to believe that global warming is causing the slight increase in tropical storms and hurricanes that we've seen in the last few decades.  I have to agree, I don't think that there's enough science out there to back up the predictions about worsening tropical storms in the years to come. 

The seventies saw a marked increase in tropical activity, which corresponded to brief period of decreased global temperatures.  Many scientists belief that, because the poles are warming more quickly than the tropics, the decreased temperature difference between the two will lead to fewer tropical storms in the future.  The point is, we don't know. 

I still think the cover article in a 2006 National Georgraphic right before hurricane season that predicted worsening hurricanes was pretty funny.  Can anyone even name a hurricane from 2006 without looking it up?  I would actually love to see a few tropical storms heading through Georgia this year.  We're still stuck in the worst drought on record, and it's partly due to the absence of tropical rains in the last 2 years.

[fencerowphil (Phil L.)]

That was my take on moonhill's description also, Dodgy.

Yep, that prediction of a dire hurricane season in 2007 was surely dead wrong.

Even Bertha had me hoping for some of that tropical moisture for Georgia.

[moonhill]

Nope, I didn't mention religion just "faith".  There was enough of that last night just before the lights went out.  The subject was vary much on topic, I thought. 

We could use some rain up this way as well, even if it takes a hurricane.   I understand it's been dry down South for some time.   Tim B.

[Dodgy Loner]

This is the third straight year of severe drought in North Georgia

[TexasTimbers]

Sorry about my wrong interpretation moon.

Did anyone see a show the tube about a week ao or so, I think it was 20/20 or something like that, where they were comparing the accuracy of todays long range weather forecasting and the Farmer's Almanac? I know that has been done before, but this was the most recent I had seen. I didn't catcth it all, but they were interviewing a farmer that planted solely on the advice of the Almanac and has allegedly beaten the odds year in and year out.

They did note the inaccuracies in the Almanac, but I think the general gist of it was that the Almanac outperforms our long range forecasters? I am not saying that was the final disposition of the piece as i say I did not get to see the whole thing, but that was my impression of where the show was heading.

I forget what the farmer planted I wish I could remember that. He had a son who also was intervied if that jogs any memories. I am asking because I wanted to know how the piece ended up, on the side of forecasters or the Almanac.

[Warbird]

Maybe Jeff is trying to get  revenge on somebody for something they already put in that pool.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=altered+the+pool&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

Click on one of those pics with the kid standing in the pool, then 'view full size image'.  Quite funny. 

I didn't link direct to one of them because of the forum rules.