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Offline Minnesota_boy

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Re: Black Cherry Commercial Plantation
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2005, 08:54:17 pm »
I may be wrong about it and if I am I will be sad, but the people making these predictions haven't done too well so far.  I'll accept global warming, I've seen the changes in my lifetime, but the changes haven't been that it gets terribly hot in the summer nor is it a lot warmer in winter.  The change I've seen is in the length of the growing season.  When I was first married we raised a garden.  We knew that to plan green beans before June first was folly, as most years it would freeze them off about the 10th and we'd have to replant.  We also knew that we had to be ready to cover tomatoes in mid-august to keep them from freezing.  Now we could plant our beans in mid-may and have tomatoes ripening into September.  During that 30 year span, we had record cold too.  That doesn't work well for the plants that would migrage north.  We've had bad droughts that killed some trees, but we've also had record rainfall too.  The only thing I've seen that would indicate a change of the type of trees growing here is the infestation of the pine beetle that is killing the vast acreages of jack pine.  This may be a perennial problem, or it may pass.  I hope I live long enough to see if the prediction is right or wrong.
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Re: Black Cherry Commercial Plantation
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2005, 09:06:02 pm »
Minnesota boy your experiencies like mine are why I think it is happening despite  examples to the other extreme ( I live near where we had the coldest reported temperature in lower 48 60 below F only about 10 years ago) .  Because of our long winters I have alot of time to read about things and my plans for the following summer. Diseases and fires are also  characteristics  of the changes  sad to say I sometimes wonder how any trees survive up here.

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Re: Black Cherry Commercial Plantation
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2005, 10:24:43 am »
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One of the sites I found just said that it has a negative effect, and the other site I saw it on before I think is broke, that link is listed under 'toxic trees'  I couldnt get the link to work for me, so I'm not going to repost it but you can try it if ya want. It's at the bottom of the first page.

Here it be,  scroll down til ya see 'special uses' and it will be right above that
http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/silvics_manual/volume_2/prunus/serotina.htm

I found the reference to this in the Forestry Handbook: Second Edition

Horsley, Stephen B. 1977. Allelopathic inhibition of black cherry by fern, grass, goldenrod, and aster. Canadian Journal of Forest Research 7:205-216. They don't have this volume online, so you have to go to a forestry or Science library to find it.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Black Cherry Commercial Plantation
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2006, 12:55:28 pm »
I have been planting Black Cherry as a forest crop tree for many years.  The local deer don't bother the cherry but eat the Sugar Maple to the ground.  I plant in areas with full sun and keep the area mowed for the first 5 years.  The pH in the soil is about 5.5 and this species seems to like that just fine.  I have a lot of native Cherry in my woods, many in the 24 to 30 inch DBH range with at least 2 16' sawlogs in each.  I get my stock form the local DEC tree sale every spring and the cost for 1-2' seedlings has been $60 for 100 trees.  The survival rate averages about 80%.
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