Author Topic: Red Pine (Read 1448 times)

thiggy · « **on:** November 08, 2005, 11:10:21 am »

I am reading the term 'red pine' frequently. As a newcomer to this forum I am not familiar with this variety. Is there another term that this type of pine may be called? I can think of white, southern yellow, loblolly, long leaf, Austrailian, but not red pine. Is this a regional term?

Corley5 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2005, 12:11:42 pm »

Some people call it Norway Pine.

thiggy · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2005, 02:24:13 pm »

Ah, yes. Thanks, that I have heard of.

Gary_C · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2005, 02:33:43 pm »

The northern pulp mills generally buy "Red Pine" which can include Norway Pine, Jack Pine, and Scotch Pine. They usually will allow small amounts of Spruce and White Pine but prefer separate loads for those two species.

moosehunter · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2005, 04:52:53 pm »

I have about a thousand of them in a pile....... I'll give em to ya! Freee!!!
mh

sprucebunny · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2005, 05:00:39 pm »

What is red pine good for...besides pulp ? Wasn't someone using it for siding ? Jeff, maybe ....

Would it make good logs for a cabin ? And moosehunter, how big are the ones you have

Jeff · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2005, 05:02:06 pm »

The whole shed, other then a few white pine 2 by 4s and a little cedar trim was built from Red Pine. Including the siding.

They build a ton of log homes with red pine.

sprucebunny · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2005, 05:06:06 pm »

That's what I thought, Jeff

Does it have any bad habits like twisting or excess checking

moosehunter, I might be able to help you out with those logs

Corley5 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2005, 07:36:58 pm »

Bigger red pine makes better lumber. Material from smaller trees is more apt to warp and twist. That's been our experience anyway. Makes good barn siding

Furby · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2005, 08:54:26 pm »

Around here, most of the homes were built with Red Pine... before the days of plywood.
After some help from StumpJumper with the ID, I now belive the original posts and beams in my house are indeed Red Pine.
I know the log joists are.

Minnesota_boy · « **Reply #10 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:21:41 am »

Our red pine are the premier tree here for making lumber. They are much more likely to yield clear lumber than white pine if they are large and have grown in a grove where competetion was a driving factor. They shed their lower limbs when quite young and if allowed to grow, cover the old stobs quickly. Depending on the tree, they can be pure joy to saw or a nightmare, as the upper sticks have such large limbs that are very difficult to saw without making wavey lumber. This is offset by the clear lumber or very small knots in the butt section. Sometimes the tree may have no limbs at all showing for the first 30 to 50 feet.

Mike_Barcaskey · « **Reply #11 on:** November 09, 2005, 07:58:11 am »

Red Pine is Pinus resinosa Ait.

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/forestry/commontr/redpine.htm

it should not be used as a colloquialism

farmerdoug · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:59:24 am »

Red pine is the most commonly planted tree on the clearcut timberlands in the upper of Michigan that I have seen so far.

Farmerdoug

Don P · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:24:40 pm »

Its also our only native member of the hard pines (sylvestris?) The rest of its family is european I think. Scotch pine is another member of that group if I remember right.

isawlogs · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2005, 08:59:05 pm »

It is also used as tongue and grove flooring . I have cut alot that have been debarked trimed and teated to become telephone or hydro poles .

UNCLEBUCK · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2005, 01:18:57 am »

Excellent shed Jeff B ! I built a log cabin with big red pine logs and one with white pine . The white pine had about 10 times as many knots which hurts when peeling with draw knife but any log will make a cabin log if you can get a roof over it in about a year except those logs with a left hand twist to them . They can sometimes lift a whole log wall no matter if its on the bottom round .

moosehunter · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2005, 08:01:05 am »

Sprucebunny,
The logs in my pile are 8 inch and smaller. The bigger logs I saw and use for lumber. The biggest problem I have is that our land was never thined. So I have twenty acres of 60 foot trees that are about 8 inches dbh.
The pile I have is from thinning and clearing our house lot.
I built a log dog house this summer from some smaller logs ( inspired by an uncle Buck post), I will try to post a pic of it.
mh

moosehunter · « **Reply #17 on:** November 28, 2005, 03:01:42 pm »

A pic of the Red Pine dog house, "Duplex Model"

My lovely bride calls it the " Loggy Dog House". Say's I ought to make more and sell them

Any orders? I figure I'd have to charge about $900. to cover the materials and labor

mh

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #18 on:** November 28, 2005, 05:44:57 pm »

We've planted thousands of acres of red pine on abandoned fields. It grows well on old fields. It's used almost exclusively for telephone poles here. There are some markets for it's pulp, but it's up and down. My folks have a red pine kitchen pedastal table about 40 inches wide, 1-1/2" thick built from local pine in Plaster Rock. We don't have many wild stands left. There is one place called the Stewart Plains that has natural red pine, it's a protected area along the Wapske River up on the Tobique watershed.

History of Stewart Plain This page is about the Orsers in NB, but the story begins in the 4th paragraph of chapter 8.

redpowerd · « **Reply #19 on:** November 28, 2005, 07:18:44 pm »

7 years ago i took about 50 trees out of this red pine stand to use for cabin logs. i have since bought a mill and have milled all the logs, using them everywhere from the barns to the house. knots are very hard. this stand was planted late 60's early 70's. marcel, tounge and groove SUB flooring?

sprucebunny · « **Reply #20 on:** November 28, 2005, 07:48:32 pm »

Great dog house, moosehunter

Yah, I figured you would saw up the good ones

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Author Topic: Red Pine (Read 1448 times)