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353 seems to be running lean
« on: September 02, 2005, 08:27:37 pm »
I bought a new Husky 353 last January and have been cutting wood through the spring.   I cut some this fall and decided to pull the plug and replace it for my fall cuttting.  I have about 10 tanks of gas through the saw.  When I pulled the plug it looked whiter than I thought it should have.  I looked at my high rpm jet adjustment and it was adjusted almost as rich as the stops would allow.  I am mixed the 2.5 ounces per gallon as suggested.  I turn the h jet as rich as it would go and ran the saw a 15 or 30 min. and the plug still looked like the carb setting was to lean.  I then went to my friends house and he has a 353.  We pulled his plug and it seemed like it was running to lean also.  Is this just the Husky oil and the newer saws or is my saw running to lean.  I have an old Sthil and the plugs always looks pretty dark.  I am afraid of smoking the Husky.   Is this common with the new 2 cycle saws and oil and do I have a problem. Thanks Mark
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2005, 08:35:57 pm »
There are a few things to look at, first the air filter must be clean prior to any carb adjustments.
Check the screen on the muffler for carbon fouling.
Run 40:1 and the plug should be black which is ok and the normal colour would be brown.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2005, 08:41:02 pm »
Thank you so much for your reply.  I cleaned the air filter before carb adjustment. 
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2005, 08:54:22 pm »
Are the head fins free of saw dust, if it isn't getting proper air flow it could also be running hot.
A modified muffler would keep it cooler.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2005, 08:56:01 pm »
Yea I take air hose and blow it out all of the time
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2005, 09:11:48 pm »
Could be a carb problem too if the mixture isn't proper and the adjustments are maxed out.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2005, 09:12:45 pm »
Yea that is what I am thinking.  Who would have thought a carb problem with 10 tanks of gas.  I take care of this saw. 
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2005, 09:15:44 pm »
Could adjustment on the Low end jet have an effect on the color of the plug?  I mean the saw spends most of it's time in the high rpm range
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2005, 09:17:21 pm »
I see from your profile you are running a Stihl.  I looked at another Stihl.  Perhaps I should have bought another Stihl and not the Huksy???
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2005, 09:17:50 pm »
You can try cleaning it and maybe throwing a kit in it if need be.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2005, 09:19:34 pm »
Get a tach on it and adjust both the high and low just to be sure.
Husqvarna is a good saw.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2005, 09:20:30 pm »
I have had the carb off my Stihl numerous time.  It sickens me to think that I have to rebuild a brand new carb!  I hate messing with the little two stoke carbs, not that there is that much too them.  I just hate tearing them down.
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2005, 09:21:32 pm »
It might just be a little dirt in one of the jets.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2005, 11:27:01 am »
buy a hotter , or cooler plug.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2005, 12:41:35 pm »
buy a hotter , or cooler plug.


Try an adjustable carb instead.....  smiley_furious EPA approved POS
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2005, 06:24:25 pm »
I wonder how much a new "adjustable" carb would be?  It is a shame that the carb provided is junk thanks to the enviromental wienies!!!!!!
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2005, 07:39:07 pm »
I don't know what the 353's carb is.  Does it have both the low and high adjustment screws?  From your post it sounds like limiter caps on the jet screws are keeping you from tuning rich enough.  Caps can be removed and put back on, or trimmed to let the screw turn.  You should be able to tighten the high speed screw to where the saw smoothes out at its highest RPM, and then back it off until you get a slight four cycling sound.  From your description it doesn't sound like you need to rebuild the carb, IMHO.

A colder plug sheds heat from the plug faster, but I don't think that would solve your heat problem from running too lean.

Do you have a Husky dealer you can take the saw to?


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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2005, 09:28:58 pm »
If you're removing limiter caps to adjust the carb chances are there's something wrong and repairs are needed.
The same goes with changing the plug to something other than what's recommended.

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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2005, 11:18:15 pm »
Yea I have a Husky dealer pretty close by.  Just hate taking a new saw to the dealer to have worked on!  The limiter caps are keeping me from adjusting it any richer.   Do all of Husky's saws have the limiter caps or just the EPA approved saws?
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Re: 353 seems to be running lean
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2005, 02:16:51 am »
I think any new saw you get these days is going to have limiter caps, if it is adjustable.  Kevin is right though.  You're better off taking it to a dealer, and letting him move the caps.  Why risk your warrantee when you don't have to?

 


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