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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2005, 10:59:34 pm »
I got close to a hundred for ya..............a bit aways though. :'(

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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2005, 06:58:47 am »
Last thing you want to do is put hydro carbons like old oil or diesel fuel on asphalt. Guaranteed to leave you with only the aggragate that was in the asphalt as the asphalt will dissolve.

Asphalt and oil are two very different items and not compatible.

When working on asphalt jobs diesel is used to clean the tools.

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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2005, 08:35:10 am »
My  thoughts (tried not to think about it  :) ) are that 'diesel on asphalt' is not good, but is different than 'diesel on ground asphalt'.   ::) ::)

Without anything, the ground asphalt remains pretty loose even if driven on and packed with a roller. The diesel has a 'hardening' effect and has made a smooth, hard layer that is much more like asphalt than not.  I have not had the same effect when applying old oil over the ground asphalt. It remains 'oily' but doesn't get packed.

I'll be anxious to hear how Reid's progresses. Sounds like he is doing okay with it so far.

And I agree that cleaning tools with diesel works great. It keeps the asphalt from sticking to the tools too.
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2006, 01:20:50 am »
UPDATE:

 New year new opportunity. State was paying to have another road nearby grinding in patches for repaving. They own the grindings not the contractor.  READ, THEY CAN'T ACCEPT MONEY FOR IT!!!!

  I got about 25-30 loads. My close nieghbor got 4 ,another 1 load. I spread about half with my tractor, stock piled the rest (trucks were coming so fast I couldn't move it all quick enough and I had to keep the road open for them to make "LAPS" thru our circtious drive. The trucks were triaxel plow trucks and they were full to heavy with fairly consistant grind. MAN for those of us who live off the road with long drives you can't beat this stuff. GOD was smiling down on me this week. Paved around the shop this year, my  trailer parking area and all the little drives around the place. (I could only dream of this given the cost of actual paving).

  Update from last year, the diesel is key for quick binding and "choking in". The drive is incredible. It paved really well and endured the frost and freeezing water without issue. Even tire chains on my HPX Gator didn't effect the drive only leaving the tell tale white marks were the tires had broken loose during plowing (their were tons of these on my steep drive as I plowed uphill just for fun) One thought, keep the grinding at least 3-4 inches minimum for durability. Rolling the top gives a nice consistant flat layer for the emulsifying, this year I used my 8000 lb forklift to "roll". Lots of back and forth (criss crossing and diagonal) and I took the forks off to get close to my buildings. The fuel also locks the edges in well that the roller can't get to (they slope away into the ditches)

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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2006, 01:02:08 pm »
What ablessing Reid!
The county has beencleaning the ditches on our gravel road, and supplied me with 25 loads of fill dirt for free this past week :)
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2006, 03:36:32 pm »
Buzz,

  Yeah, any free fill is a blessing( as is the place to put it) Most folks near me have small parcels and no way to handle or move it so I look very good to most contractors. The stock piled 15 extra loads of asphalt are sitting on GOODNESS knows how much free fill from the sewer project on our road last year (the first part of this thread was due to the grinding from the road repair afterward) The contractor even leveled it for me (would have seeded too if I had wanted him too). Oh yeah, I got about 20 free trees out of the deal last year as well, mostly oak and cherry (about $1000 worth). Bottom feeders of the highest order!

 
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2006, 03:51:26 pm »
It has for the longest time been my assertion, that, an enterprising person can make a living if not a vast fortune, out of the things other people wish to dispose of............ 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2006, 12:38:58 am »
They regularly grind off layers of asphalt for repaving here in Florida. The contractors usually stockpile the grindings, add more tar to it and then repave the same road it came off of with it.

Sounds like you got a deal though. Some guys get all the good junk ;D
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2006, 12:51:46 pm »
Reid,

You have me thinking about giving this a try.  You have any pics of the finished product?  I have a missus that I will need to convince ;)
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2006, 04:46:32 pm »
Too busy photograph, but I'll get some and post them. It is AWSOME  beyond belief. You will be her hero! No more dust/ dirty cars, and on and on. We Have a long drive and it always needed grading and such. The limestone turns to ball bearings over time as the calcium is worn away, not so with grindings especially if locked in with "reimulsification". Reid
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Re: Re-emulsifing ground asphalt.
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2006, 12:09:50 am »
I drove a hot mix truck a few summers ago and the trailer had a belt feed conveyor that would shoot the hot mix out the back end . Had to stop before reloading the next load and would pull up to the spray rack and get out and spray diesel fuel all over the inside of the trailer and the tail and the tar buildup would just melt off , couldnt beat that tar off but a little diesel fuel here and there and the inside of the trailer was clean and ready for the next load .  Stinky job for sure
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