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Offline Chet

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2005, 10:29:43 pm »
Try box elder too. I know I'll probably get a few lashings for mentioning it. smiley_smash smiley_whip smiley_argue01 smiley_gossip
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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2005, 02:56:23 am »
some whattle pics




black wattle- my favorite




6m high - about as big as they get




sally wattle folage




whats left of the clearing for the house.  We used 5 times this for the hall lining and one wall of our living space.

hope this helps

arthur

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2005, 02:35:44 pm »
Daren,  guys as handy as you are hard to find!

Well, if you're going to build yer log home,  get cuttin' !  hehe ;)

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2005, 02:38:24 pm »
yeah, I've not seen any trees like the Wattles. Very nice trees. Would they be good for wood carving, I wonder.

Ok, Ok, no box elders!   :)

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2005, 04:49:28 pm »
very good for carving and turning.  As a semi hardwood it OK for working unlike the Forest Oak which tends to powder as to shave.

Not structual so is OK for wall linings.

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2005, 10:34:52 pm »
I just planted six one year old DED resistant American elms trees last year for shade.  Although I'm a little younger, I still ask myself why I keep planting trees for the next owner. One elm is about six feet (not bad for a three year old), and a most others were pretty stressed last year, so they aren't as tall (3-4 feet).

I do have a few very young tulip popular growing at the end of out gravel driveway, and they look like they are growing fast as well.

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2005, 02:48:09 pm »
Elm do seem to grow fairly fast when young, I think they can grow 3 feet a year in good conditions, once established. I have a few butternut planted around from the nuts, they start out very slow it seems. Although, they do grow over 12 inches in the first season of germination. They seem to emerge (germinate) in the driest month, amazing.  Yellow birch do well to if you can keep the deer, moose and rodents away. :)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2005, 04:07:06 pm »
Like Arthur said, wattles are fast growing, We have some Tasmanian Blackwoods planted too close to the house that we have to cut out--too much shade-- The timber is just like black walnut.  if you prune them to a single stem you get a nice sawlog in a relatively short period of time.  The bees love the small yellow flowers and produce beautiful honey.
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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2005, 04:49:06 pm »
Ernie

forgot the honey.

we produce what call bush honey.  Has primarily whattle, iron bark and bluegum.  whole stack of others but these produce the most and best nectare.

Tree like tallowood are good for pollen.  Ive been told that eating pollen from bees has two or three times the protein than beef.  Im still looking into this.

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Re: fast growing shade trees?
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2005, 10:56:12 pm »
Elm grows VERY fast.....well the stump sprouts anyways.
Got one over at my Grandma's that I cut down last summer for the ump teenth time and it is now almost 15' tall in one year!

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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2005, 11:53:25 pm »
Furby

some trees will regrow regardless but I have found from an old guy here that if you fell trees one side of the full moon they day and will not regrow.  On the otherside of the full moon and they will regrow.

Due to the fact that the root system is already established you get a hugh growth rate.

Bluegum from seed will havest in about 30 years.  If cut properly and all but 2 or 3 of the shoots taken off you will have those trucks to harvest size in about half the time.  You do however need to take all off to get the repeat.

Goes back to the old ways of crofting.

arthur

 


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