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Offline crtreedude

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Re: carbon credits ??????
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2005, 07:22:31 am »
whitepine,

Would that be Ken, the friend of FDH? If it isn't, the coincidence is amazing since both of them were into prospecting here.

I tend not to be a classic environmentalist - I don't even think of myself as one. I think the only way to save the environment (not the world, it will be hard to destroy it I think without nuclear weapons) is to make it pay for itself. Perhaps carbon credits is a baby step toward it.

If people can make money off improving things for a change and producing wood in a more sustainable fashion - I don't see any problem with this. I particularly like the idea that carbon credits are not anti-lumber.



So, how did I end up here anyway?

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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2005, 09:42:26 pm »
The Ken I am refering to was known as Ken in Costa Rica in the prospecting  groups he had a website called basement chemistry for the prospector and very active on mining forums. I also never think of myself as an environmentalist but spent a life in the woods trapping cattle and logging, always figured that if you put your money where your mouth is most landowners really take care of their property and nothing wrong with making some money off of it and if one can help the environment so much the better. I too think this carbon credit thing has real promise and unfortunatly alot of legislation and laws will go along with it. I live in a timber area for pulp and OSB board and I doubt if  one person in a thousand has any idea what carbon credits are about. Looking at logging articles the scandinavian countries are way ahead of us in  using wood and recovery they use everything and the most advanced whole tree cut to length and processing  units are designed and some made there.

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2005, 12:09:17 am »
I have no corroberation but the story I have heard in this neck of the woods (Alberta,Canada) is that the Govenment pays $50 per acre to the Timber Companies to not cut the trees.
The Timber Co. in turn is leasing wooded land from private landowners/farmers for $25 per acre which they can claim as uncut timberland.

So the farmer makes $25 for doing nothing and the Timber Co. makes $25 for doing a little paperwork. The Gov. gets to say we are saving the world and the taxpayer gets - - well, we all know what the taxpayer gets.



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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2005, 07:36:22 am »

  WhitePine, were you ever in Costa Rica ???  Ken was a very good friend to me. We traveled around CR, but, I was always there at the worst time for prospecting.

  I have access to his dredge and a couple of places to use it. IM me if you would like to talk.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2005, 10:11:17 pm »
Hi I never met Ken we  emiled back and forth a bit as I was  interested in going there for prospecting and I am the owner of the yahoo group Micron Gold. He sure was a helpful person to us prospectors and will really be missed. You must have learned a bunch being with him he sure had a easy way to explain things. I would love to get down there spent alot of time yesterday on  I think crtreedude site and the links: northern Minnesota has about 4 months that if you are not logging it would be fine to get away from I  would love to get down there. Very interesting the buying trees down there and they seem to be way ahead of us in the forestry dept. Do you keep his dredge down there?

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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2005, 10:55:21 pm »

 The lady that has it is a good friend.
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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2005, 12:18:44 am »
Just read an article about raising hazlenuts and chestnuts (bush type?) this is from a private research farm that makes a profit selling  seedlings, they had an article on their website about how much carbon the  two take in comparing it to corn soybeans and claim 3x carbon intake and unlike corn soybeans the plants last 25 years not like corn where the carbon is released in one year. This makes sense to me but more important is the idea that people are starting to promote crops by the amount of carbon sequestering it does. Is this the future???

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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2005, 12:23:24 am »
Yikes!!!!!  Der goes da grits.......
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