Expanding ? But got the Land!

[Tom]

Little David, the land baron.


Wow!  Looks like you got a real deal.  Ready made foundations for an office and second home.  Three Phase power at your disposal for those cheap, too-big-for-others type wood working equipment, lots of frontage so you won't miss the driveway when the brakes fail, plenty of "down-hill" to put sawdust and slabs into, lots of uphill to look for reven'oors, some level ground for corn, peas, 'maters, water melon and grits trees, and several places for a sawmill.

You might even have room for some cabins to rent to those Chicago tourists who want to take the week off and watch a sawmill run.

[Kirk_Allen]

Way to go Dave.  Nothing better than seeing dreams come true!

[D._Frederick]

Arky,

A couple questions: What are your regulations on land usage and zoning if you have them?  What about property taxes, do these come into play?

Sounds like a good buy, hope everything falls into place for you.

[Tom]

Hey D.!!   He lives in Arkansas.

Zoning?  Permits? 

I asked that question to a realtor in Harrison one time when we were considering moving to Parthenon and I've never seen such a confused look on anyone's face in all of my life.  Finally, I guess he felt I needed some kind of an answer, he said, "I guess you just do what you want and tell city hall you did it, .....if you want to."   

[Norm]

Yup MM you're right...jeez I hope Arky didn't have the same problem when he signed that contract.

[ScottAR]

I'm just guessing this land is out in the county. (not in the city limits)  I'd want it to be anyway...   Out in the county in Arkansas, the rule of thumb is get a septic system permit and just have at it after that.   Whatever and however you wanna build it just go ahead,  if it kills anyone it's likely to be you.   

[Teri]

A Walmart super center in Flippin??? 

When I left there they was talking about putting up a traffic light by the railroad to ranger boats. 

[Furby]

I drove right past Ranger Boats...........don't recall seeing that light, might have missed it.

[Teri]

maybe they decided not to put one up. I worked there 10 years and a lot of traffic was going through there.

[Smakman]

Land prices are getting crazy aren't they?  10 years ago I sold a nice 40 acre peice of land for $29,000.  I wish I had hung onto it now.  I bet it would go for $120,000 at today's prices.

[beenthere]

Smakeman
That 'ol hindsight is rough on the mind.
In '64, (41 years ago), I had the chance to buy 80 acres of hardwood timber that hadn't been cut in, that anyone could remember, for $3000. I tried to get $$ from the bank, and just because it didn't have any building whatsoever, not even a shack, they wouldn't loan the money (bank policy).
Since then, it sold for $55,000 after 20 years, and now would easily go for $1,200,000 as it is better property than the surrounding acres going for $15,000/acre in 40 acre pieces.  This 80 still has never been cut in or managed, but it does have a small shack on it now. 
I don't regret not having it, as it wasn't meant to be. I enjoy the 22 acres I have now.

Glad Arky got what he was looking for. Easy to find too, and will try to get by there when visiting my Arkansaw brother next time.
I remember driving from Texas to Mountain Home, AR years back, and having to drive through some streams along the way. Maybe that was around this area. 

[DanG]

I agree with Beenthere.  Too much looking backward will make your eyes water up.  A couple of years ago, the former paper company sold off a whole bunch of land for $1500 to $2500 per acre.  I coulda bought some, but I didn't want to take the money outa my 401k and pay the 10% penalty.  Now the remaining parcels are going for $7500 per acre.  I coulda tripled my money in just 2 years!

15-20 years ago, I could have bought a beach-front lot on St. George Island for $3000, or a bay-front lot for $2000.  Now, the few bay-front lots available are going for a half-million, and beach-front for over a million!  Oh well, my ex probably woulda ended up with it, anyway.

[Buzz-sawyer]

I imagine back in the 50's St George beachfront was CHEAP...It was so popular they dropped bombs on it in the 40s........I learned one thing.....ya never loose buying land.......and you usually lose when ya sellit........

[samdland]

Dang Arky ya just missed the Tax sale for marion county I saw 40 acres go for $2,500 and a few other large tracts go dirt cheap. I know a sawyer and his wife bought most of the large tracks. That wasnt you was it?

[ARKANSAWYER]

  Sorry I have not gotten back sooner.  I have been sawing on the road last week down in Calico Rock.  I will post some pictures of it later in another thread.  That is the one thing I will miss about sawing on the road.
  Since my land has 2 wells and 2 septic systems on it already all I have to do is let the Court House know when I finish a building.   Taxes are pretty low here and pert near any thing goes in building.   Here common sense still flows like a stream and most folks know to come in out of the rain without some one telling them.
  The Super Center in Flippin is behind where the old Razorback Hotel was which burned a few years back.  There is a stop light there now.  The other stop light is on the other side of town where the old Wal Mart was.  No light at the intersection of HY 178 & HY 62.  By-pass hits at the intersection of HY 101 on the east side of town and goes south of town and comes back into HY 62 about 2 miles from the new home of ARKANSAWYER SAWMILL.   No stop lights in Yellville.

  Already have a guy who wants me to put up a 20 x 20 building so he can rent it to put in a welding shop.  Half of the land payment made already.    

    Few people want to know if on Saturday mornings if they can rent a spot under the shade trees by where the old house was to sell small live stock like rabbits, chickens and goats.  Seems they got run out of the Farmers Market in the City park because of some left behind chicken "nuggets".  Was a thinking that would be good for business to have more people coming in and getting a look at lumber and such.  Any thoughts on that?

  The plan is to set up at one site and saw others logs as well as what I can buy from loggers.  Not going to compete with the large mills for oak but take pine, cedar and odd woods like cherry and walnut that no one around here saws.  I have green markets for every thing I can get so getting rid of the excess is not a problem.  Kilns will be added so I can dry for others which has been a big demand since I started sawing.   I will dry my own in seperate kilns from the customers.  I was thinking of putting in 4 or 5 4,000 bdft DH kilns.  Scragg mill and band resaw for small log break down and when get going good a LT 70E for large logs.   I will set Wanda up with her bed extension for long logs and doing special cuts off the main line.  Then want to add a swing mill with slabber for the "big & uglys"  Will try to keep production under 10,000 bdft a day and look at making a better product and work on the ones that sell best.   I hope to be able to get another mill for portable sawing and train some one to do it to keep that void filled so some young stud does not get a foot hold in the market.   A Logosol PH 260 would make T&G easy enough that would sell well here.   Cabin packages and portable buildings and the list just keeps going.
ARKANSAWYER

[D._Frederick]

Arky,

If you are going to be milling a lot of T & G material, I would take a look at the WM molder. It is a much heavier build machine and should have less problems.