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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #900 on: April 01, 2005, 08:46:51 pm »
You have too many wheels on that log truck.  In Minnesota you rarely see more than 2 sets of duals on the back of the trailer.  Of course, the loads are smaller too, but that has to do with the upper limit of the license allowed here.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #901 on: April 02, 2005, 12:13:26 am »
Not here in Michigan. They are even considering allowing longer lengths.  :( There's a "pup trailer" in the rear.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #902 on: April 02, 2005, 12:27:01 am »
How long are they looking to go?

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #903 on: April 02, 2005, 06:02:22 am »
They have 3 to 4 axels on trailors here and haul 32 to 46 tonne (that's a metric tonne which is 10 % larger than a short ton). This time of year we have 80 % restrictions on secondary roads.

Most folks are using these trailors

http://www.bwstrailers.com/logger.php

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #904 on: April 02, 2005, 07:03:50 am »
Maine is the same with their trailers.Our pup trailers are alot shorter,when we do see them.There are some good size trailers up north on the paper companies roads,but I don't see big loads on state or towns roads down at my neck of the woods.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #905 on: April 02, 2005, 01:54:20 pm »
Approximately 120 miles trucking to the pulpmill in Muskegon, MI
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #906 on: April 02, 2005, 06:25:00 pm »
I think in Michigan they will allow weights up to 140,000 lbs if you have enough axles.  In Minnesota you are allowed 80,000 max with 5% over for forest products. In the winter you are allowed 10% over when the roads are frozen or 88,000 plus the 5% tolerance.  Last year in Minnesota they started allowing trucks with 6 axles to be licensed for 90,000 but not many have added a third axle on their trailers.

You have to be very careful with that 5% tolerance because if you exceed the tolerance by any amount, the overweight goes back to the max weight allowed. Since many of the pulp mills are now weight scaling, the DOT can and will go to the mills and check all weight tickets back 30 days and send you a ticket for any loads that are overweight. So just because you are not stopped with a heavy load, it does not mean that you got away with an overload.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #907 on: April 02, 2005, 07:13:49 pm »
Multi-axel trucks can be used in Michigan only; maybe in Ohio by special permit.

The pulpwood hauler pictured above will have a gross weight including truck weight of 154,000 - 157,000 lbs carrying a payload of 22 - 25 cords under good road conditions.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #908 on: April 02, 2005, 08:00:14 pm »
In Michigan we use the federal weight limit which is 160,001 lbs.  But you can only get it with 11 axles and 1 having a 9' spread.  It's all in the axle spreads to get the weight.  My truck weighs 55,000 empty w/ the pup legal for 154,000. They are talking about extending the legal lengths for "gravel trains" and construction trucks on nondesignated routes.  Log truck are already allowed to be 9' wide and up to 70' long loaded.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #909 on: April 02, 2005, 09:31:47 pm »
I spoke with a hauler here last fall that said he does 160,000#.
I don't recall how many axels he had though.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #910 on: April 04, 2005, 01:34:43 am »
hey ed k that looks like the skidder i drive (when im able to) lol great pictures everyone!!! and also whoever posted the first pictures on this thread...id give anything to drive that machine!!!
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #911 on: April 11, 2005, 08:51:39 pm »
More Wood Hauler Names Noted:

"Timber Taz"
"Doc"
"I Love The Money"
"Fast Forward II"
"Big Boz"
"Chapter II"
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #912 on: April 18, 2005, 08:26:24 pm »
Pulpwood Load Crosses "Big Mac"

This load is headed south from "Yooper Land" to a pulp mill in northern lower, Michigan; 3/05. Numerous loads of forest products cross the Mackinaw Bridge each day.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #913 on: April 29, 2005, 08:25:59 pm »
A Load of Aspen Pulpwood. A load of aspen pulpwood leaves the harvest area for the mill approximately 100 miles north. Treais timber harvest; 3/05.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #914 on: May 03, 2005, 08:19:07 pm »
Iron Mule Forwarder. This machine works cautiously along the edge of the wetland. Treais timber harvest; 3/05.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #915 on: May 14, 2005, 06:12:00 pm »
The Iron Mule Forwarder Needs A New Tire. The left rear tire on the forwarder is replaced "on the job" with a new one. Treais timber harvest; 3/05.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #916 on: May 14, 2005, 09:04:23 pm »
ron it'a a joy to come in this thread and see what new you have posted  thanks gene
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« Reply #917 on: May 14, 2005, 11:30:19 pm »
Thanks tnlogger. The interest is very much appreciated.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #918 on: May 15, 2005, 12:10:20 am »
As a Kiwi, I hate to admit that the Aussies have another one up on us but I came across this record for an Aussie "Road Train"  79 trailers, length 1018 meters GVW 1072.3 metric tonnes
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #919 on: May 15, 2005, 08:09:06 am »
Ernie, must take them weeks to load and hook up all their trailers!!
 At a kilometre long, how does the driver see their rear trailers in the mirrors?  ??? They must pale into insignificance.
When making a turn, they must need at least 1/2km clear inside radius, otherwise it's total wipe-out of anything in their path. :o
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