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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #600 on: March 16, 2004, 09:50:37 am »
Thanks for the explanation Tom. You'all must have sandy soild there and no rocks. Around here in our rocks and heavy clay I'd have all the teeth ripped off before the day was done.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #601 on: March 16, 2004, 10:13:45 am »
We've used those root rakes up here on abandoned farmland to clear off alder and brush. Then later, plant white spruce on the site. Been 100's of acres prepared with those. Sometimes they are on dozers. We only had limited success because some operators cleared off duff and all, which cause frost heaving problems with the planted trees.

DanG it why does water expand when frozen? :D

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #602 on: March 16, 2004, 10:52:47 am »
It really doesn't expand, Swamp Donkey.  It's an old wives tale.  Actually what happens is that it becomes very stable and the rest of the world shrinks in the cold.  I know all about that shrinking in the cold.........don't ask. :D
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #603 on: March 16, 2004, 11:36:21 am »
Errmmm :-/     I won't  ::)  :o

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #604 on: March 16, 2004, 12:14:41 pm »
Yep, Tom .....my belt shrinks too, even when it isn't cold.  ;D

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #605 on: March 20, 2004, 03:46:45 pm »
Delimber & Slasher. Processing wood at the landing and decking area. Ski Brule Mountain timber harvest 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #606 on: March 21, 2004, 10:23:15 am »
690 E John Deere Delimber. Works at the landing. Yooper Timber Cutting; Ski Brule Mt. timber harvest; 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #607 on: March 22, 2004, 06:11:45 am »
Prentice Slasher. Processes wood products at the landing. Ski Brule Mt. timber harvest 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #608 on: March 23, 2004, 04:52:55 pm »
John Deere 850B Crawler with Angle Blade. Being used for road construction and building site clearing. Ski Brule Mt. timber harvest; 2/04.


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« Reply #609 on: March 23, 2004, 06:29:16 pm »
I was wondering what folks would recommend for a small forwarder. One with a 2 cord capacity bunk and a loader, 6 feet wide bunk, closed in cab. Is there one for around $35,000 USD? I was thinking about using one in commercial thinning operations with average piece size at 6 inches. My production would be 0.75 cord/hr after trail wood is cut. I remember seeing a demo on a woodlot field day and I think they wanted $80,000 CDN, which was too pricey for the production it could muster. We are starting to see a trend up this way where the price of replacing old equipment is gone too crazy, so there are very few younger folks attempting to get into the woods business after their fathers retire. I was told by someone today that he knew a fellow that would have to dish out $1.5 million to upgrade and he's now 57 years old. He says the guy is going to work with what he has and then he's done. He's even laying off 19 people and retaining his top 3 men.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #610 on: March 24, 2004, 03:38:07 pm »
 1.5 million isn't actually that bad now. I saw a 455 timbco leveling buncher with a Keto 500 harvesting head for 500 thousand. I'd imagine 2 new skidders, a buncher, a delimber and a log loader would run 1.5 to 2 million easy.
Nice looking dozer Ron, seems to be well equiped for woods work.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #611 on: March 24, 2004, 04:33:14 pm »
The small timberjack and valmet forwarders are popular here along with the vintage iron mules. Most of the timber producers work with "used" pieces but they keep them maintained and in good shape.

The large producers have "big bucks" in their logging equipment and the payments don't stop during spring break-up.  :-[

The higher their costs, the more they have to produce /day.
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« Reply #612 on: March 24, 2004, 04:38:12 pm »
Its quite a chunk of change, just the same, when you consider that pulp and softwood sawlogs have only increased by 15% in 15 years, while machinery cost has increased 100% and trucking costs are 30 % of your gross. I wouldn't want that bill over my head. ;) You have to have alot of ground to work to pay them bills. Just to reflect a little bit. Most farms including buildings, land and equipment is barely worth that. I know first hand, we sold 850 acres (450 acres woods) 3 years ago and we had a 160 foot by 120 foot potato storage shed with 20 foot ceilings, 10 years old.  We sold the potato shed for less than half its value.

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Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #613 on: March 24, 2004, 05:43:16 pm »
Timberjack Feller-Buncher. A tracked unit works well in heavy snow. Ski Brule Mt. timber harvest; 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #614 on: March 25, 2004, 12:15:43 pm »
 There's a lot of 6 and 8 wheel forwarders around the maritimes with those wheel tracks on, they must work well.
SwampDonkey, a TJ 215 forwarder is a nice smaller machine, prices are decent too.

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« Reply #615 on: March 25, 2004, 03:12:46 pm »
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Do you have a link to the 215?  I can only find the 810D or larger.

http://www.timberjack.com/products/forwarders/810D.htm

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« Reply #616 on: March 25, 2004, 04:00:48 pm »
 The 215 is an older machine, see them in the equipment trader now and then. Rotobec makes a nice small forwarder but I'd bet theyre pricey.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #617 on: March 25, 2004, 05:15:08 pm »
The Logger's Pick-Up. The spare saw on the tail gate is a Husky 254 XP. Flint timber harvest; 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #618 on: March 26, 2004, 04:44:25 pm »
Sharpening Saws. The chain saws are checked over and sharpened before starting out on a days cutting. Flint timber harvest; 2/04.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #619 on: March 28, 2004, 07:44:41 am »
Iron Mule Forwarder. Decking wood at the landing. Flint timber harvest; 2/04.


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