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Author Topic: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment  (Read 880737 times)

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Offline Kodiakmac

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2540 on: October 18, 2014, 08:23:19 am »
 

 

Fellow who buys white cedar locally has this trailer/loader rig.  He hauls up to 750 bf. 
Robin Hood had it just about right:  as long as a man has family, friends, deer and beer...he needs very little government!
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2541 on: October 18, 2014, 09:00:30 am »
That's nice looking cedar. That grapple is unusual, I've never seen one quite like that. Is it a factory unit, or something he fabbed up? Bargemonkey, I didn't think you were busting my stones ;) I'm just pointing out, in my case, it's more the equipment and wood than the skill of the operator- trying to be humble here ;D I'd say my production is better than average, but we have a few forwarder operators that can walk away from me. It drives me nuts because it's not for lack of effort on my part. So my point was, in the same circumstances, I'm sure Bargemonkey logging would have piles of wood on the "header" that were just as big ;) I didn't take your comments as a dig at all.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2542 on: October 18, 2014, 09:34:06 am »
That's nice looking cedar. That grapple is unusual, I've never seen one quite like that. Is it a factory unit, or something he fabbed up?

Yup, I've got some nice cedar.  May as well log it before the woodpeckers ventilate it!

He can handle 22 ft logs on his mill.  He needs 9.5 inches s.e.d. - he squares the cedar for log houses.

The loader has "CHARGO" printed on it.  The rig is made somewhere in Quebec.  I'll get the name of the industry from him.  It has 4 initials - something along the lines of BMJP Industries...or something like that.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2543 on: October 20, 2014, 04:05:32 pm »
A really awesome videl I found on YT, shouing how it was done "back in the day" in the PNW.  Those old steam donks could really move the logs, and fast!! 
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2544 on: October 20, 2014, 07:03:12 pm »
that is some nice looking cedar kodiakmac,  cedar was what i cut when i first started logging,  cut it all winter and dropped 15lbs and well lets just say i need to start cutting cedar again hahaha
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2545 on: October 20, 2014, 07:26:04 pm »
Great video      thanks for sharing
Make sure you know how to fall properly when you fall and as to not hurt anyone around you.
Also remember, it's not the fall what hurts, its the sudden stop. !!

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2546 on: October 20, 2014, 09:10:54 pm »
 
Start learning to run it tomorrow

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2547 on: October 20, 2014, 09:19:04 pm »
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2548 on: October 20, 2014, 09:41:39 pm »
1270D where are you cutting at?

Too bad the Scorpion doesn't have space for a passenger as I'd love to take a ride in it.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2549 on: October 20, 2014, 10:24:43 pm »
On his lap ;D I didn't know you were getting a Scorpion, 1270d. Is it a Scorpion King? I haven't worked around ours yet.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2550 on: October 20, 2014, 10:44:10 pm »
It is the king model yes.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2551 on: October 21, 2014, 08:45:40 am »
Our operator has been pretty happy with his Scorpion. A couple of things he didn't like- one, he said it turns like a John Deere and two, the fact that you have to back out of strip looking over your shoulder. Both things you should be used to  ;)
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2552 on: October 21, 2014, 10:51:09 am »
that is some nice looking cedar kodiakmac,  cedar was what i cut when i first started logging,  cut it all winter and dropped 15lbs and well lets just say i need to start cutting cedar again hahaha
kev

I had 4 trees that were 9.5 inches or above at the 48 foot mark.  I measured the tallest on the ground and it was 83 feet 9 inches - and there is a good two feet of stump. It had a bit of dry rot in the centre at the butt end for the first 3 and a half feet.  That's pretty good cedar for around these parts.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2553 on: October 21, 2014, 05:07:37 pm »
You U.P. Loggers must make more money then us in the lower half of the state... We'll I know you do you guys get almost double what we get for your pulp wood.. That machine looks mean what's the price tag? I heard somewhere around $700,000 before they came out

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2554 on: October 21, 2014, 07:57:41 pm »
1270d  That is a sweet looking ride/office.    What size head do you have and does it have a top saw to deal with the hardwood in the background?
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2555 on: October 21, 2014, 08:11:31 pm »
this is H7 head with no top saw.  Tried it for the first time today, very nice to operate.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2556 on: October 21, 2014, 09:31:00 pm »
Cutting a first thin red pine plantation currently. Snapped a few pictures today in front of a deck of bolts.


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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2557 on: October 22, 2014, 09:42:05 am »
Chevy, is that a Caribou model forwarder? What is your load capacity?

1270d, I'm looking forward to more reports on the Scorpion King. I'm waiting for the forwarder to come out that matches ??? What would they call it though? Seems it has to be something from the animal kingdom ::)

Ken, I don't think a top saw is available on any Ponsse head smaller than an H8, which is the head that is run on the Bear model. Our Bear has doesn't have a top saw, I heard we demo'd a head with one. They must not have found it to give much of a boost, cause we didn't keep it ::) I think they would be slick in hardwood, and the big aspen we cut (technically hardwood, I know). To be honest, most of our guys are so production minded that anything that slows the head down gets hacked into pieces and left, not the best use of resources I know, but that's how it is.When I ran processor for a friend, with no top saw, I would end up having to drop a stem and spin the head around to measure a stick because the top knife was hitting a crotch or whatever. It would have been nice to just push a button. I was just watching some videos of a 703 in hardwood with a topsaw, it looked real slick. Does your head have one?
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2558 on: October 22, 2014, 07:09:00 pm »
Yeah its a Caribou leveled off its about 4 cord, if I really heap it up I can get close to 5 on there. Only really heap it up if I'm close to the landing or along the road.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2559 on: October 23, 2014, 09:40:36 am »
Piled high ;)

 

 
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