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Offline Jamie_C

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2120 on: March 03, 2013, 12:43:10 pm »
the 610 replaced the older 230 machine, they gave it about 1/16" more cab room then the old 230's so needed to give it a new model number ... lol
  you mean its a tight fit?

I believe a Real Estate Agent would call it "cozy" ... lol

If you aren't careful turning the seat around you will smash your kneecaps off on the parking brake lever, plus if you want to bring anything into the cab with you that is bigger than your shadow then you could be out of luck .. lol

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2121 on: March 03, 2013, 01:39:43 pm »
No place to put your lunch?
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2122 on: March 03, 2013, 05:41:34 pm »
The 610 does not the most spacious cab but overall this machine (my first forwarder)has treated me very well and works every day.  The load is a little better than 4 cord.  There are times that I would like a forwarder with a larger cab and automatic tranny but Rome wasn't built in a day and my funds were limited when I was searching for equipment. 
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2123 on: March 03, 2013, 08:25:07 pm »
a load of grade oak to go to Lindsey Hardwoods in Farmville, Va.

 

 
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2124 on: March 04, 2013, 01:36:34 pm »
On the smaller side of things, here's a minute long video showing my little skid steer pulling out white pine. You can see how narrow the skid road is as well as thinned and unthinned sections of the tract.  The flag line is wetlands setback and the blue trees are slated for removal.



Here are a couple photos of the yard as well.





This was one of the first loads of saw logs to go out.
 

 

 
You can see from the treeline in the background that the tract was thinning out by this load. I was bringing the trailer load of fir to a different mill with my one ton because there wasn't a full wheeler load of it and I wasn't going to leave it on the landing...
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2125 on: March 04, 2013, 01:43:54 pm »
Very typical set up of a logging truck in Maine.
What was you using that long bar for? don't see any trees there that you needed it for? The bar looks 4 feet long.  :D
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2126 on: March 04, 2013, 01:56:40 pm »
I don't use that saw, I just carry it around and put it in photos to make me look tough...

No, it's only a 28" bar -sitting on some of the smaller spruce and fir logs makes it look bigger.

There was a lot of really wonky (mostly pulp) 24-32" pine on that lot.  I didn't like getting on the bad side of the tree, so the long bar was helpful in not having to cut from both sides on each big tree.  Even with that bar though, I had to work both sides on some of 'em.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2127 on: March 04, 2013, 02:05:24 pm »
I got a 28 incher too. I guess I need to put it on a pile of small wood too.  ;D Have not used it for years.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2128 on: March 04, 2013, 06:08:19 pm »
That tandem truck would be extremely overweight here in NB even without road restrictions which were put in place this morning  :(
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2129 on: March 04, 2013, 06:22:24 pm »
That tandem truck would be extremely overweight here in NB even without road restrictions which were put in place this morning  :(.
Looks like a nice legal load to me Ken!  ;D
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2130 on: March 04, 2013, 07:57:54 pm »
That tandem truck would be extremely overweight here in NB even without road restrictions which were put in place this morning  :(.

Here in NS a load like that would likely be a fine of over $1000 if you got caught and depending on which mill you might even be told not to come back. Back when Mactara was still operating if you weighed in heavy 3 times the truck got suspended from delivering for awhile, if it kept happening even the wood producer would get penalised.

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« Reply #2131 on: March 04, 2013, 08:03:39 pm »
 Looks like two typical loads to me.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2132 on: March 04, 2013, 09:11:27 pm »
Its all good until you get busted. Have plenty of trucks that haul for me that have gotten 1000+ dollar tickets plus having to unload logs on the side of the road someplace to get under legal weight, then having to come back for those logs on another trip making you lose even more money. 164k is the max gross legal weight here but I've seen plenty of trucks scale out at over 200k, good friend of mine has been trucking for about 50 years and said he used to run overweight all the time thinking he was making more money, after a few tickets, and the increased wear and tear on tires, brakes, axles, bearings, suspension, frames, etc he said he found that running legal weight he actually finished the year with more money in his pocket.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2133 on: March 05, 2013, 08:13:04 am »
 You would not make it far here with a load like that, or the configuration of the truck.
 there's not only the wear on the truck that one needs to take into acount, the roads take a beating from all the extra weight and that cost hurts everybody, not only the owner operator.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2134 on: March 05, 2013, 09:24:41 am »
   In and around the city of Charlottetown we have 3 police forces, municipal,RCMP, and DOT.  When moving wood on truck or trailer the one thing they all look for is tie down straps. Two every eight feet.  The three inch strap seems to please them all. Some you ratchet with a bar , some have a handle.
 

 
 

 
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« Reply #2135 on: March 05, 2013, 09:32:01 am »
The guys that are saying that is not a legal size load and truck not legal either,got pictures of trucks in you area that are legal?
I'm not trying to beat a dead horse,  ;D but I see loads and trucks like that every day. I have no idea the weight he's hauling,but if I stood on the cornor where the paper mill is,I could take 100 pictures just like that. The state roads are not posted for weight so the wood can be moved. Some guys will save a job on a state road.
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« Reply #2136 on: March 05, 2013, 09:52:53 am »
  The morning I hauled this load did not know it would be my last. The Mill is gone .
 

 
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« Reply #2137 on: March 05, 2013, 09:57:40 am »
I'm trying to figure all this out.  :D  Is that all you can haul to be legal? Or was that all you had cut?
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #2138 on: March 05, 2013, 10:04:57 am »
Just because you could take a picture of 100 of them doesn't necessarily mean its legal. Like I said I know plenty of guys that scale out at over 200k and do it almost everyday. Seen a load or two at over 250,000lbs (that's almost 100k overweight, or the weight of a normal semi/van trailer combo).

Is it legal? No.
Are they getting away with it for now? Yes.
Are they tempting fate? Yes.
Are they putting extra load on the truck? Yes
Are they putting extra strain on our already crappy roads? Yes

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« Reply #2139 on: March 05, 2013, 10:06:42 am »
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What do you mean the mill is gone?  For the season? For ever?
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