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Offline Rick Alger

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1780 on: January 28, 2011, 09:08:58 am »
Question for Ron Scott and others

What is typical daily production for a small iron mule? Will it load a trailer with stakes?

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1781 on: January 28, 2011, 11:26:13 am »
Question for Ron Scott and others

What is typical daily production for a small iron mule? Will it load a trailer with stakes?

I will start with the easy one. Loading a trailer.
Yes you can load a high bunk trailer with one. But it will give a kink in the neck as the seat doesn't swivel far enough to give a good view of the loader or the pile based on which side you have it on. And you need to be real close to the trailer as the reach is limited at that height. Leaving you almost working blind on the far side. And again this varies by model as some of the later Mules had more reach. But I don't know of any that the seat turned all the way to face the loader.

A lot of variables in production. Terrain is a big one.
Mules haul between 1.5 and 3 pulp cords depending on the model and bunk configuration. Takes around 15 to 45 minutes to load and unload plus travel time. Big difference in times if loading behind a buncher or a hand crew and saw logs to pulp.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1782 on: January 28, 2011, 11:32:09 am »
Ron, do you guys always still have green leaves in november? ???
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1783 on: January 28, 2011, 08:14:39 pm »
Rick,

Pretty much what Reddog stated on the Iron Mule's production and truck loading. The Mule usually just decks the wood at the landing and the self loader trucks load themselves more efficiently while the Mule keeps on forwarding to the landing/decking area.

Barbender,

This was an odd November. No real cold temperatures or snow until December. A lot of tree leaves stayed green and on the trees longer than usual. Not the norm, however.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1784 on: January 29, 2011, 01:38:50 am »
Oh wow! I thought you posted the wrong date, I was being a little bit of a smart aleck :) I don't think I've ever seen green leaves up here past mid October.
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1785 on: January 29, 2011, 06:12:18 am »
Reddog and Ron,

Thanks for the info.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1786 on: February 02, 2011, 08:52:59 pm »
It's a long truck haul out. Several landing/decking areas are set up along this 1 1/2 mile two track access road which will now need to be plowed out again after last nights heavy snow storm. Schirmer Hardwoods Sale, 11/10.
 


 

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1787 on: February 03, 2011, 01:25:18 pm »
have i said....
thanks for this thread? i really enjoy all the pics

a big thank you .. pc
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1788 on: February 03, 2011, 07:53:41 pm »
Your thanks is appreciated. I like it when others post their methods and equipment here as well.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1789 on: February 04, 2011, 09:53:06 pm »
Neat pictures Ron.  :)

Beautifal country too.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1790 on: February 05, 2011, 03:27:54 pm »
A short video of a plantation pine second thinning in north central Louisiana. These trees are all volunteer in what 20 years ago was a pasture. It all went for pulp. Deere feller buncher, deere grapple skidder,(never seen a cable skidder in this part of the country) 2 prentice knucklebooms loaders, one with a slasher/de-limber, 2 double bunk log trucks.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1791 on: February 05, 2011, 04:05:26 pm »
nice vid, that prentice is a nice machine 8)
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1792 on: February 06, 2011, 07:31:43 am »
Neat vid thanks.

Is that SYP and what do they use the pulp for?

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1793 on: February 06, 2011, 05:04:15 pm »
Norm, yeah that's loblolly aka syp. Goes to the local paper mill. We have over 100 acres of timber that size. Hopefully next cutting will be some sawlogs. Right now, pulp pays better, nobody wants to pay anything for sawlogs.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1794 on: February 06, 2011, 05:13:46 pm »
Piney, are there large patches of pine forest getting eaten by the beetles, or is it patchy? I would guess with the hurricanes of late years and them beetles marching in, it has put a glut on the pine log market. Same as in BC, a lot goes to China now. And the pine logs probably degrade fairly quick with stain, maybe the sawmills are not too wild over denim pine.

Just guesses from afar way up north. ;)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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« Reply #1795 on: February 06, 2011, 09:36:54 pm »
SD the beetle population has about run it's course. Seldom see any beetle killed pine any more. Most of the katrina and Rita logs have been turned into lumber by small bandmill operators. The big mills have never bought logs from a dead tree. What has killed the log market here is a total collapse of the housing industry.  Plus our state legislature enacted very restrictive building codes statewide after katrina. Big commercial mills are either shut down or only running 2 or 3 shifts a week. The small one or 2 man bandmill operations are thriving, but it's all specialty stuff, species the big guys don't want, barn boards, beams, extra long stuff, blocking, pallets etc.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1796 on: February 06, 2011, 10:01:26 pm »
Piney, yes I see. The industry is hurting all over.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1797 on: February 07, 2011, 08:55:46 pm »
  Some of what's been going on here this winter  :)   














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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1798 on: February 07, 2011, 08:57:37 pm »
really good pics! nice c4.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1799 on: February 08, 2011, 08:58:59 pm »
Corley

Thats one dang tidy looking TF Forwarder you have there  ;) ;D 8) 8)  what year is it Mate  ???

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