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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1600 on: January 03, 2010, 09:08:04 am »
I was going to ask if that was in the hills, nice pics. I work with a fella that logged out there for quite a few years- his name is Wally Houtari.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1601 on: January 03, 2010, 09:47:49 am »
This is a common view for a wood hauler in Minnesota that Gary C will recognize- sitting in line at Sappi Fine Paper in Cloquet, MN. These trucks are being unloaded into the woodroom, which basically eats the wood as fast as the Liebherr crane can throw it in. It takes a good crane operator about 3 minutes to unload a rail trailer, probably 4 with a bunk trailer. 

Nice pictures. That scene is not so familiar any more as Sappi has been so stingy with their quota.

But don't you have it backwards? You should be down in Georgia in the winter, not here in the Frozen North. Especially since it's 30 some below zero this morning.  :o
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1602 on: January 03, 2010, 10:14:47 am »
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1603 on: January 03, 2010, 10:17:24 am »
I didn't know the Black Hills grew such nice timber.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1604 on: January 03, 2010, 10:57:42 am »
There is some real nice timber in the black hills, from what I have seen out there. Beautiful country, it has a character all its own. Gary, I'm thinking you have it right , what am I doing up here when it's -30 :o. I just talked to Jake, he said it is cold there too. Only 30, I reminded him that is 60 warmer than here. :) They have their own struggles down there though, it's been so wet they can't get any wood out.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1605 on: January 03, 2010, 05:34:41 pm »
The Hills have there areas of Really nice wood.. I'm working a 160 Acre tract that hasn't been touched in over 70 years.. and I'm pulling some really dandy wood.. Plus right now the USFS is Pushing alot of sales too try and get ahead of the Pine Beetle outbreak so tracts that wern't too be done for another 5-10 years are getting done now

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1606 on: January 03, 2010, 07:48:52 pm »
NewPage in Duluth, MN. You can see the bridge that crosses from MN into WI in the background.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1607 on: January 05, 2010, 04:41:27 pm »
This the best thread on here. Thanks all

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« Reply #1608 on: January 05, 2010, 08:25:09 pm »
Thank you. We appreciate your interest and contributions to the thread. ;)
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1609 on: January 05, 2010, 09:03:26 pm »
how do you guys get that frozen pulp to stay on those rail trailers?  DOT would just freak out if they saw that here.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1610 on: January 05, 2010, 09:34:55 pm »
They have a piece of square stock about 1/2" by 1/2" welded on top of the main frame rail that kind of bites into the wood, it's actually more secure on top of a rail trailer than a flatbed, because the wood is only touching those two points whereas it can kind of slide across a flatbed. Of course, the crib trailers probably hold the load the most securely, but it ends up being a taller load. You can defineately feel the difference. The other nice thing about a rail trailer is if you start to flip over, the load will just fall off instead of flipping the truck. Or so I've heard  :D
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1611 on: January 05, 2010, 09:41:45 pm »
how do you guys get that frozen pulp to stay on those rail trailers?  DOT would just freak out if they saw that here.

Well, the MNDOT doesn't think they do, and they have ONE picture to prove it. And they trot that same one picture out every chance they get to harass all pulp haulers.

They did make two changes in the new tiedown regulations for crossways haulers (rail trailers) a couple of years ago. One is you have a center hold down for your straps to go over and the other is that you have to uniformly crown the top of each section so the strap touches every log on the top of the load. No more going down the road with a long rail trailer with the straps flapping in the breeze in the center of the load.

That crown on the top is also for multi bunk trailers unless you have front and back barriers to prevent escape of any log. If you do have end gates and the bunks are close together, you do not need tie downs. If you don't have front and back endgates and your loads are being stick scaled, you are destined to be in conflict between your stick scaler who can't measure any higher than the outside log and the DOT that says you have to crown the load and give away the crown to the mill.  ;D

Actually I think there has been a change to more bunk trailers and less rail trailers. With a crib trailer you can throw the logs in and go. No more throwing straps.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1612 on: January 05, 2010, 09:52:15 pm »
back when we had 4' wood there was always a few sticks by every big frost heave.  everything is long now. 12' to 48' don't miss 4' wood

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1613 on: January 06, 2010, 12:04:09 am »
i remember my pap tellinme that they cut 5' peices and loaded it by hand . started w a bow saw till he go the money for a chainsaw lcs 26 homelite . there one still inteh basement actually .

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1614 on: January 06, 2010, 08:04:08 pm »
Here's what I use 1250 jd with an elkem winch.    40 hp tractor  one picture of the woods road







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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1615 on: January 06, 2010, 08:26:30 pm »
This is my equipment. I also have a home made farmi style winch but don't have pictures at this time



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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1616 on: January 06, 2010, 09:27:03 pm »
Gary- the trucks I'm running now are both pulling crib trailers with the end barriers, it is nice not having to chain down.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1617 on: January 06, 2010, 09:41:45 pm »
This is at Savanna Pallets in McGregor, Mn. One of their yard trucks is unloading me.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1618 on: January 06, 2010, 09:46:52 pm »
 This is out at the landing on a northern hardwoods harvest- red oak, soft maple, white birch, aspen, and a little basswood. The John Deere forwarder is loading the truck with birch pallet bolts.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1619 on: January 06, 2010, 09:48:24 pm »
Gary, do you ever bring any wood up to savanna?
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