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Offline zackman1801

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1460 on: June 05, 2008, 05:58:33 pm »
I want a couple of the simulators. They look like fun.

we have four computers in our forestry class with both Harvester and Forwarder simulators on them. they are pretty cool because with the joysticks you buy for the software the controls are actually very similar if not the exact same as alot of Valmet equipment.  the only things these lack is graphics. the graphics are utterly horrible, the limbs on the trees are just green triangles on the stem, and the white birch trees look like someone painted a spruce tree white.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1461 on: June 11, 2008, 03:05:10 pm »
wonder how much they cost?

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Stonebroke, according to a Scandinavien Forestry News magazine price for the harvester 1470E is US$ 616,000 and the forwarder 1270E is US$ 450,000, Cheap  ::)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1462 on: June 11, 2008, 05:34:09 pm »
I wonder how much wood you would have to cut ina average day to pay for that?

Almost like you are working for John Deere.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1463 on: June 11, 2008, 06:05:38 pm »
Up here it means a lot more woodlots will suffer with the clear cut mentality pushed onto the operator to pay for them. It's more about finance sometimes than management.  ::)

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1464 on: June 11, 2008, 06:54:57 pm »
.............Almost like you are working for John Deere.
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What does that comment mean?  and directed at who?   :)
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1465 on: June 12, 2008, 09:57:55 am »
Maybe they mean John Deere FINANCE Division..

It would only then cost around a million dollars to get some wood out and sell for nothing.

Here now you have to run 3 processors to make what at one time you made with one.

Lets also buy a tractor trailer and loader to have the complete package and haul our own wood. The cost per mile for fuel on the highway for that is only about $1.15 per mile around here.

It looks like fun tho sitting in there with no blackflies chewing you up... :D

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1466 on: June 12, 2008, 01:05:59 pm »
.............Almost like you are working for John Deere.
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What does that comment mean?  and directed at who?   :)

It means that you are working real hard just to pay the equipment off and you really don't make any money except for the equipment maker. It is common among us farmers.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1467 on: June 12, 2008, 01:56:44 pm »
Thanks, now I "see"... 8) 8) :) :)
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1468 on: June 17, 2008, 12:38:10 pm »
Our Next Job. Last week's severe storms have caused a lot of blowdown and tree damage to local woodland areas. This is a salvage job we have started the field work on today. Not our favorite kind of work areas.



 

 
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1469 on: June 17, 2008, 06:21:34 pm »
looks like a big mess, lots of springpoles to deal with.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1470 on: June 17, 2008, 06:33:36 pm »
What a nightmare to work in. Is a lot of that aspen? Seems like small root balls.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1471 on: June 18, 2008, 10:47:38 am »
Yes, it is mostly aspen with areas of standing sawlog size aspen that should have been harvested several years ago. The landowner realizes that, but just didn't. We are going to harvest all of the aspen and downed red maple and oak in and around the blowdown and leave the intermixed standing red and white oak for wildlife. It should end up looking like a shelterwood cut.

There is also a small blowdown area of red pine plantation of pole size timber that we will try to have cleaned up also.

Yes, a mess and not the safest areas to work.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1472 on: June 18, 2008, 04:53:15 pm »

 last week we also got a very bad wind storm. saddly,i lost a friend in it as he was running a log loader the storm hit.he saw a tree coming for the loader and tryed running for safety.he didn,t make it.he was going down the steps of the loader and got hit acrossed the back.he died right there..  :'(

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« Reply #1473 on: June 18, 2008, 08:05:52 pm »
What a sad incident.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1474 on: June 18, 2008, 09:02:02 pm »

 YEP RON:that really bothered me.who would ever think that a tree would get ya as you ran a log loader.i can see a log getting away from ya,the loader busting,or falling off the loader..but,hit by a blow down?? i figured i,de post it so everybody else would know it can and has happened.. :'( i worked with kenny for several years on a logging job.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1475 on: June 18, 2008, 09:40:53 pm »
No ROPS on that log loader?  Sorry to hear about it, but might have been safer lived by not jumping off, i.e. leaving the protection of the ROPS.
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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1476 on: June 18, 2008, 10:12:00 pm »
Sorry to hear about your friend Two Bears. We had a bad twister a few years back. We took on a 20 acre job. Mostly white oak and red oak. It didnt take long for us to get back to the pine thicket. I hated it i ran the skidder and had a guy running the saw. He knew what he was doing thank goodness. I was happy for that job to be done.

Most guys around here that did good on the jobs used a Bell cutter with a dangle head.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1477 on: June 19, 2008, 07:08:08 am »
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Sorry to hear about Kenny.That was a freak accident.That is too bad something like that had to happen.
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« Reply #1478 on: June 19, 2008, 08:43:23 am »

 BEENTHERE:log loader cabs are mostly for comfort not stopping falling trees that inch square tubing and 1/8inch steel plate won,t stop much.it,s tough to stand your ground when a trees coming at you.it,s to bad he ran tho.if he had stayed in the loader he would still be here.but,like i said it,s tough to stand your ground if a trees coming at you.
 CFARM:your right..talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time.i,ve been thur tornato's(sp) 100 mph straightline winds,ect,ect,ect and i can say that storm was the most violent storm i,ve ever been thur.the wind went from about 10 mph to over 70 mph in a split second and it rained so hard i think a fish could have swam thur the air.the whole house shuttered when the wind first hit...it sounded like a big truck hit the house.

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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #1479 on: June 19, 2008, 11:06:22 am »
Mother Nature continues to show us "who is boss".
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