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Offline ex-Engineer Wannabe

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WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« on: July 23, 2005, 10:41:16 am »
Hi, all! :)

I recently visited a man in Miss that operates a Wood Mizer LT40 Hydraulic Bandmill. As we were talking, he mentioned that he likes the VERTICAL bandmills made by a company called WOODLAND MANUFACTURING.

After a very thorough web search, Ive just about given up on contacting them. Nonetheless, I thought Id give the forum a try.


DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONTACT THEM?

I think theyre in Poplar Bluff, MO, but the only number I found for them -- 573.785.3810 - doesnt work! I even called the Chamber of Commerce there -- to no avail.

Anyway, Im interested in learning more about the vertical band technology, so any help or thoughts would be most welcome.

Have a great day,
Bill

PS - I've seen Woodland brand mills on the Sawmill Exchange site, so they definitely do (or did) exist...promise :D
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2005, 10:54:14 am »
Going by what I have seen on the Web, they were sold to another sawmill mfg that also has gone out of business.

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2005, 02:33:02 pm »
Thanks for the reply, D!

Well...I guess the whole vertical bandmill thing didn't catch on?  It's a shame, because the concept is certainly interesting.

Thanks again, :)
B
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2005, 03:01:05 pm »
I went to watch one work once.  I was very impressed with everything except the price (at about $40,000).  I don't think I have seen a mill that was set up better for ease of use.  The only time an operator had to leave the spot he stood on was to load logs and to moved stacked lumber.  An edger was even part of the mill.  When the lumber returned to the operator to be stacked it was done.

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2005, 03:45:07 pm »
Thanks, Smakman.

Was that a Woodland you saw?  Yes, the Wood-Mizer operator I visited did mention that the Woodland mill was expensive.  But, more importantly, he said it was his preferred mill.  Anyway, that's why I've been researching the vertical design.

Have a great one,  ;D
B
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2005, 03:52:39 pm »
DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!.....from EVERY angle and EVERY application.....the addidge " one mans food is anothers poison" is so true....I know my choice was accurate  ;)....but you may find pros and cons on ANY mill....you just have to research research research......and follow your intestional fortitude....good luck ...be safe and have fun

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2005, 04:52:02 pm »
Hello B in NOLA,
      Glad to have you on the forum.   Dennis Woodland owned Woodland Mfg. He told me he designed the mill to be a one man operation. I don't know what happened that made him go out of buisness. I see his son every year at the sun-n-fun fly-in in Lakeland Fl. This past April he told me that he  just decided not to do it anymore. No details or anything. I didn't press him either. I almost bought a Woodland several years ago because of the one man feature. I see one every now and then on sawmill exchange. All you can do now is find a fellow that owns and operates a Woodland on a regular basis. Get educated from his view point and make a decission whether or not to get a used model. I hope things work out. :P :)
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2005, 05:01:27 pm »
I saw one working at a show a couple of years ago.  I had a video of their mill working, and its a pretty sharp machine.  As stated, you can still find used ones, but they are still pricey.

I've heard that there is an Amish maker in NW PA that is making vertical band mills.  We also have a member that converted a Frick circle mill over to a vertical band.

Other good veritcal mills include the Sanborn Minimax, but they use wide bands. 

Here's one you might want to check out.  http://scieriemsp.com//indexang.htm
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2005, 05:12:07 pm »
Thanks for the link, Ron.

It's possible that I read one of your posts earlier today, as I used the same link to see the Canadian vertical sawmill.  I think it was a thread entitled Horizontal -vs- Vertical (or something like that).

Anyway, the mill looks pretty nice, but I'm wondering about service after the sale.  The massive distance -- not to mention the language barrier -- makes me a bit hesitant.  Do you have experience with them?

I'll look into the Sanborn model as well...thanks again :)
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2005, 05:17:12 pm »
Thanks for your thoughts, woodbowl.

Yes, I heard that the owner of Woodland had some serious marital type problems, but I didn't realize that he had gotten out of the business.

It's too bad, once again, because the longtime sawyer I spoke with highly endorsed the brand (and he owned a WM LT40 Hydraulic).

Have  a great one,
B
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2005, 05:49:20 pm »
Ron,

If you still happen to have the Woodland video somewhere, please let me know.  I'd be happy to pay any expenses involved in borrowing it from you for a short time.

B in NOLA
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2005, 09:29:30 pm »
Alas. I gave it to a guy a good number of years ago.  He had a Wood Mizer and was looking to get something with more production. 

Don't overlook the swingblade or the dimension mills.  A lot depends on what you want to do with it.
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2005, 09:53:57 pm »
Thanks anyway, Don.  It was worth a shot :)

I want to use the mill to transform my own trees into logs or timbers (haven't decided that yet), and into dimensional framing lumber.  The trees I'll be utilizing are mostly 30" or under, and I'll have a maximum of two in my "crew."  Once I've completed construction on my own place, you never know...I might just give up my desk, hitch a mill to my 4x4 and butcher up some other folk's trees -- and leave the rat race to the rats.

As always, any thoughts are welcome...
B
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 12:04:08 am »
I know this topic is 6 years old, but wanted to put it out there about the Woodland Sawmills. Woodland is no longer in business. Dennis Woodland died a few years back. He was out of MO, somewhere near St. Louis. I own a Woodland K5000 vertical mill. It is NICE! It true you don't move from the controls very often. I am in Colorado and cut pine and some walnut from Kansas. I use 2" Lenox bi-metal blade. They are expensive ($90), but the best! Great mill to own if you can find one! Sawn one on sawmill exchange in Alabama for about 13K. Well worth the price!
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2011, 10:43:31 pm »
Mr. Watson,

Hi.  Let it be known that there is one guy at least who is very glad - and hopeful now - that you posted on a six year old topic.  I've sent you an e-mail which I hope you will respond to.

Ron Smith

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2011, 04:18:38 pm »
I know of a Woodland mill for sale in the Crossville, TN area. Owner pasted away a couple years back and the whole setup was sold along with the bldg its in. New owner wanted the real estate and isnt interested in the mill. Its set up 3 phase electric and comes with a 4cyl diesel genset. Been sitting a while and more of a project than I wanted to tackle. Price asked was 14k for the whole deal..genset,infeed deck, rollers, edger etc. I believe the model was a 4000 and it was about a 2" band.

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2011, 12:10:50 pm »
The woodland vertical band sawmill is a great mill last I heard from them was from an ad in summer 2005 , here is a picture , I hope to make a video of mine and put it up in the next week, cannot believe that there is not more info on the web for this mill, as when I researched and purchased mine, it was by far the best at the time,, and also not very cheap.
   can't seem to find where I uploaded the pic,, it can also be seen at Treeme .org

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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2011, 01:21:51 pm »
Welcome to the forum

Pull up a stump and tell us more about your mill and when was the "best at the time".

We're all ears, and you can use the Java Uploader to post pics in your own gallery (set it up under your profile).
Looking forward to hearing more.  8)
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Re: WOODLAND SAWMILLS
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2011, 07:56:22 am »
There is a company in Quebec, Canada that market a small vertical sawmill.

http://www.jober.qc.ca

And I believe it is sold in the US by Cutterchoice.com