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SOLVED: Pinus pinea Linnaeus (Umbrella pine)
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SOLVED: Pinus pinea Linnaeus (Umbrella pine)
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July 30, 2002, 01:30:27 pm »
What kind of pine tree is this (Scientific name only)?
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July 30, 2002, 02:30:11 pm »
Its an alligator
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July 30, 2002, 03:07:04 pm »
I don't think it's a pine at all-----I don't see any pineapples!
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July 30, 2002, 07:44:26 pm »
Ain't no gator and it ain't no pineapple plant. Now this is serious business here so git outcher books. Ya might just learn something. See Jeff.....I toltcha you'd be scratchin' yore watch and winding yore butt on thisun.
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July 30, 2002, 07:54:09 pm »
I dunno what it is, but it looks like a sugar pine, havin' a bad hair day.
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July 30, 2002, 07:59:54 pm »
Nope. Not Sugar Pine.......
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July 30, 2002, 08:04:38 pm »
Charlie,
Is that tree in Italy too?
Looks a little like a Pinus sylvestris L.
I don't know if they grow in Italy or not. They aren't native in the US of A but there's a bunch of them been planted.
That's too easy isn't it?
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July 30, 2002, 08:23:16 pm »
You're sorta on the right track Noble! It's not Pinus sylvestris L. though. You got part of it....It is Pinus.......
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If ya wanna know about Pinus Sylvestris though, here's a link.
http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/silvics_manual/Volume_1/pinus/sylvestris.htm
Pinus sylvestris L.
Scotch Pine
Pinaceae -- Pine family
Darroll D. Skilling
Scotch pine (Pinus sylvestris), also called Scots pine, is an introduced species in North America, brought here from Europe probably in colonial days. Although it is used for both pulpwood and sawlogs, its principal value in the United States appears to be as a Christmas tree, as an ornamental, and for erosion control.
Habitat
Native Range
Scotch pine has been widely planted in the United States, especially in the Northeast, Lake States, Central States, and Pacific Northwest. It is now considered naturalized in parts of New England and the Lake States (29). The species has also been planted across southern Canada.
Scotch pine is the most widely distributed pine in the world. It grows naturally from Scotland almost to the Pacific Ocean and from above the Arctic Circle in Scandinavia to the Mediterranean. Its altitudinal range is from sea level to about 2440 m (8,000 ft).
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July 31, 2002, 10:58:43 am »
I know all about you Charlie. I bet you don't know and your just trying to find out what this is yourself. Well it aint working I aint helpin. Humph!
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July 31, 2002, 11:12:56 am »
Jeff, you ain't helpin' 'cause you is stumped...hee heee. And you can't give me a hat to get the answer 'cause I already got a hat. And......I do know the answer.
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July 31, 2002, 11:26:00 am »
Prove it!
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July 31, 2002, 11:38:40 am »
Ain't gotta prove it...he heeee. Got you stumped don't I?
I know that I know and Tom knows that I know and Tom already has a hat too and he's my big brother so I know he'll keep a secret.
He ain't gonna tell ya. You is gonna have to figure this one out for yourself......unless someone beats ya to it.
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July 31, 2002, 11:53:59 am »
Charlie,
that's probably not a Pinus succinifera
Just in case it is, please let me know right away because there are some fellows that would probably like to know where you took that kodac.
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July 31, 2002, 12:34:01 pm »
It's probably not a Pinus longaeva either
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July 31, 2002, 01:46:01 pm »
Tom may be your brother but yer just a virtual brother on here. Tom is a forum administator and he tells me everything. Thanks Tom.
It's a Pinus shortaeva
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July 31, 2002, 02:01:25 pm »
I can't tell you, Jeff. Charlie will tell Momma and I don't won't another whuppin' :-/
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July 31, 2002, 02:06:36 pm »
Ya know this aint fair. When we put on a tree or plant we usually include the needles and a close up. all you gave us was somebodys Bonzai pruned in a broken clay dish that looks like some old ruins.
Its a Pinus Bonzainess
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July 31, 2002, 08:25:57 pm »
Noble, it's not Pinus Succinefera. From what I can find, that is an ancient tree from which Amber comes. I'm not sure it still exists.
The amber-yielding pine Pinus succinifera (Conw.) Schubert was described as early as the 19th century as the mother-tree of Baltic amber or succinite, the earliest known among fossil resins. The name, common for four species of conifers, today does not satisfy researchers. The search for amber’s mother-tree, best known on the southern beaches of the Baltic and Sambia, continues.
It's not Pinus longaeva, It ain't Pinus Shortaeva, it ain't even Pinus Bonzainess and Jeff quit your whining about not seeing the needles......
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1. This tree is living in Italy in the ruins of ancient Ostia not far from Rome. It is common in the Mediterranian area.
2. For the common name, look at a Morton Salt Box.
DanG it!
Now I've pretty much given it away.
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July 31, 2002, 08:35:50 pm »
Charlie,
That Pinus succinefra's been extinct for centuries.
I knew what it was all along, I was just fooling with you.
Its a Pinus whenitrainsitpours
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Nope Noble, it ain't Pinus whenitrainsitpourseaus but you don't know how close you are to figuring it out. DanG close. With a little thunkin' and internet searchin', I'm betting you'll beat Jeff and anyone else on this one.......
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