Setworks vs. Accuset

[shopteacher]

What is the difference between the setworks woodmizer use to offer and the new accuset?

[Kirk_Allen]

I have the Accuset and I believe it offers more progamable settings and a pattern mode.  I can program 16 sets of numbers for Auto UP, Auto Down and Pattern mode. 

I tweeked mine today and have to say I am more impressed than ever before.  I was haveing some issues and after READING the instruction in DETAIL I found out that the specific problems of stopping where I want it to are programable.  Now the head moves super fast and stops EXCATLY where I program it to. 

I find myself using the Pattern mode 90% of the time.  Real time saver and you get the most from every log! 

[Bibbyman]

In addition,  the Accuset has a GoTo mode that has 4 programable sets.  We use this when we're done sawing one log and ready for the next.  Most of our logs are small so I often use the 12" setting.

How I use it is... As I'm cutting the last board,  I "mash" on the odd little re-cycle button twice.  This sets it to GoTo 12".  When the blade exits the cut,  I hit the up lever and the head raises to 12" with no other attention.

It'll also go down to the GoTo set.  For example,  if the head was above 12" and I wanted it to GoTo 12" I'd do the same thing as above except hit the lever down.

[shopteacher]

Well, that's all well and good, but what did the old setworks allow you to do?  I'm looking at a mill that has the setwork system. Can you still operate the head manual with either of them?  Thanks for the info guys.

[Kirk_Allen]

Yes you can operate manually. There is a "manual" button that lets you set the up down where ever you want it.

Hey Bibby, what button does that "GO TO" thing your talking about.  My manual doesnt say anything about that. 

[shopteacher]

Kirk;
  Check under Spanky's tail.  I think there's a go to button there.

[Bibbyman]

Hey Bibby, what button does that "GO TO" thing your talking about.  My manual doesnt say anything about that. 

If you've got an older version,  it probably don't have it.   I don't have the version numbers or the dates they came out. 

Also,  the newer versions are much easier and quicker to program.   

[pigman]

I have the Simple Setworks on my 1998 Super. I have 4 sets that let me drop a certain amount for each set. It reads  off the chain. It will drop real close to the correct amount on each drop but will get off scale after several drops. On the opening cuts I always use the setworks but switch over to manual  on the  opposite side so I am still on scale when I make the last cut. If I am sawing some odd size like 13/16 or something similar I use the setworks all the way down and just trim the last board to correct size. I hope you understand because I think I got myself confused.

[Kirk_Allen]

Kirk;
  Check under Spanky's tail.  I think there's a go to button there.

 

[Gary_C]

The simple answer is that Setworks does not know where the bed of the saw is and Accuset is a bed referencing system. Because Setworks does not know where the bed of the saw is, it has no pattern capability, but will help you make uniform thickness boards.

Setworks will take accurate "drops" from where the head is when you put it in automatic and will remember where the last cutting height was, even when you raise the head up for the return. In other words, it doesn't care how far up you go after a cut, when you hit the down lever, it drops the set distance from your last cut height. If you are cutting 4/4 boards and your last cut was only 3/4 in above the bed, it will try to drop the head thru the bed of the saw.   

[shopteacher]

Thanks guys, I think I have a pretty good idea of how they both work now.  I can see where the accuset is a more advanced and accurate system.  I suppose thats why they discontinued the setworks.  Does anybody have an idea of what the additional cost to the mill was for the setworks system?

[pigman]

I believe in 1998 the setworks was about a $1100 option.

[shopteacher]

Thanks Pigman, just the information I needed.

[sparks]

Setworks is no longer being offered by Wood-Mizer. Parts will be available for a while. They may have to be made when an order is placed. A week to 10 days turn around time. If the mill is a non-remote it can be upgraged to Accuset for about $2495.00.  Thanks

[Bibbyman]

Setworks is no longer being offered by Wood-Mizer.

Was there a reason for dropping the simple setworks?  The people that have them apear to be happy with them.

What's the cost for accuset as an option on a new mill?  Standard and remote?

[Chris Burchfield]

The remote with accuset is about 5gs on the super or LT 70. Comes with Autoclutch and something else. I order my super with both. She should be so sweet. 

[sparks]

Parts for the Setworks are no longer being made by the maufacturers. The Setworks would have to be redesigned for any new parts that may be available. The sales on Setworks has been virtually nil since Accuset.
The cost for Accuset on a non-remote is about $2495.00.
The Accuset comes standard on a remote. There is no upgrade for going to Accuset on a remote mill with Setworks. It can be done but the cost is around $4000.00 in parts because the wiring harnesses and door on the power box needs replaced along with the Accuset parts.
We will still have enough parts for repairs, on Setworks, for about 5 years.   Thanks all.