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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #900 on: February 04, 2012, 06:45:42 pm »
Nice logs you have there. are you going to make all 4 1/4 boards out of it? :)

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #901 on: February 04, 2012, 07:06:12 pm »
That is a very nice load of cedar.  Those big long logs can saw out some nice beams that the fancy home owners pay about $2.50 to 3 bucks a foot to make their pergolas. When they price western cedar beams they think ERC is perfect.
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #902 on: February 04, 2012, 08:19:41 pm »
Those look like very solid logs and will turn out some good quality lumber.  Nice haul.   smiley_thumbsup smiley_thumbsup
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #903 on: February 04, 2012, 08:39:53 pm »
I am back to the problem side now.
Orders for 16' trailer flooring and no 16' logs. I  guess it is a good thing I do some of my own logging. PC
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #904 on: February 04, 2012, 08:47:44 pm »
Murphy's law of sawmilling #1   No matter what length of logs you have on hand, your customers will instantly want the length you just happen to be short of.

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #905 on: February 04, 2012, 09:45:26 pm »
DanG, Larry!  That is a whack of cedar logs.  You are going to be needing a big pile of stickers  :D.
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #906 on: February 05, 2012, 07:42:28 am »
Those big long logs can saw out some nice beams that the fancy home owners pay about $2.50 to 3 bucks a foot to make their pergolas.

DanG Cedarman, you spilt the beans.  That’s ok cause I quit pagaodas.  I found fancy driveway gates to keep the riprap like us out pay better. :D :D
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #907 on: February 05, 2012, 08:17:05 am »
Gday

Larry & Magic You Boys have to stop posting pics of such high grade logs fellas people will be thinkin thats all you cut  :) :) ;) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)

With log lengths I try to cut them either 16' 2x8' or a 16' ,18' 10'&8' , 20' 2x10s' or an 8'&12' , 24' 3x8'-16&8'-2x12' or a 10'&14' length I also do Tree length and CTL Cut To Length  as they let you have the most lengths in log stock to fill custom orders like yourself Paul Ill be doing our own logging for a start its a double edged sword doing your own logging as you have to be just as good a Logger as you are a Sawyer  ;) ;D 8) 8)

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #908 on: February 05, 2012, 08:25:43 am »
Larry do you have some pics of fancy driveway gates that you made? :) :)

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #909 on: February 06, 2012, 04:09:06 am »
My actions to move the logs from the back line to where I could get to them on the front line paid off.  We did get quite a good soaking rain that left the back lot soft on top. 

 

 

The weather being down to just above freezing at night and to about 60 during the day has made from pretty good conditions to darken the ends of the red oak logs.  Some of these logs are only a week or so old while many of the others were cut late last fall.  The bark is still tight and in most cases the sap has not started to stain but will soon if we don’t get them out.  We sawed 55 this weekend.  A good many in this picture has been converted into flooring and 6x8s.
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #910 on: February 06, 2012, 04:31:56 am »
I wonder how long ash stays good as a log on the yard? I see down at Garants (tool handle company) there is a lot of ash that is dark grey and even black on the ends.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #911 on: February 06, 2012, 05:36:27 am »
Ash doesn't stain.  Dead ash gets brashy.  It gets powder post beetle instead.  We used to have a handle place that would wet down their logs.  That kept the beetles at bay.
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« Reply #912 on: February 06, 2012, 05:56:33 am »
Yeah, I'm sure there are bugs. These logs are not under sprinklers. I don't think they have the facilities to deal with the water and they are up hill of many residences. I think powder post is more of a problem far south of here, but I'm sure there are buprestid and engravers. It doesn't appear to me they are a very fast paced facility, seems they are idle a lot. They do pay good for ash though, close to $500 for clear stuff with 14"+ tops.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #913 on: February 06, 2012, 06:41:16 am »
Bibbyman,

Do you not end seal your logs?
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #914 on: February 06, 2012, 07:03:39 am »
Gday

I dont think many production mills do Danny I think Bibbys Mix would allow it too I personally would not bother with it as its just another thing that takes up time if I was in severe weather I would set up sprays to run during hot weather though ;)

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« Reply #915 on: February 06, 2012, 07:27:01 am »
Bibbyman,

Do you not end seal your logs?

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #916 on: February 06, 2012, 04:03:34 pm »
... No matter what length of logs you have on hand, your customers will instantly want the length you just happen to be short of.

Something to be said for buying 52' logs ;D.
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #917 on: February 06, 2012, 06:14:44 pm »
Down in our neck of the woods if you put the ash under the sprinkler it will stain it. Everything else goes under the sprinkler.

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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #918 on: February 22, 2012, 03:25:39 pm »
 

 

One thing there is always plenty of around the mill is junk.  I save beck odds and ends and heartsaws, etc. for about a year.  Sometimes some of it find a useful home.  Often it just going from bad to worse.

One thing there is never enough of is blocking.  Seems like every order that goes out takes some blocking with it.

So.  Today was the day to do some spring cleaning.  I ran the junk though the Blockbuster and wacked up some 40” blocking pieces and the rest went into firewood that woudn't produce usable 40" pieces.

I think good housekeeping is good for business.  People don’t want to do business with a place that is covered up with junk.

‘Corse, this is not nearly all the junk we had.  We’ve went through about 90% of it already making it into firewood for our own use.
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Re: Log lot management problems
« Reply #919 on: March 06, 2012, 04:31:45 pm »
 

 

We had used the firewood processer a couple of years in the same spot.  I just kept pushing the sawdust, chips, chunks and other debris away from it.  This last fall we moved the processor so I pushed up all the old junk, mixed with dirt and other junk into a pile.   I added on some ugly and rotten this and that.  Then we sawed out some cedar that was well past prime and put that on top. 

Over three weeks ago we were going to get a substantial rain and did.  Just as it was starting to rain, I went out and set the stack – about 8’ diameter and 8’ tall – on fire.  I stayed with it until the cedar and upper half was consumed and the flames had died down and the rain started falling pretty good.  Next day, most of the pile was consumed but there was still some smoldering coming out from under the ash and dirt.  Not to worry.

A couple of days later we got about 3” of wet snow.  The pile continued to smolder and smoke.  I didn’t disturb it.  Figuring if I opened it up, it would burst into flame.

More than three weeks have gone by.  It looked like it had burned itself out.  I had the bucket on so I went out and scraped the scab off the tip.  There was a lot of warm, dry ash under the crust and some live coals.  There was still some moisture around and it didn’t flame up.

Today they were calling for high wind and low humidity.  I was a bit concerned.  I checked it early in the morning and nothing was happening.  I checked it again about 9:00 when the humidity dropped and the wind came up.  Sure enough,  it was smoking again.  Most coming from under a big chunk.   I got a scoop of creek gravel and dumped on it.  That seemed to smother it out. 

Just a bit ago I decided I’d better check again.  DanG!  It was smoking hard again.  And this time some small chunks around the edge were on fire and actually flaming.  I got two more scoops of gravel and, hopefully entombed it.
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