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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2005, 10:06:54 am »
Isn't it also amazing to watch someone use their saw and it seems like on 'every' bucking cut, the saw tip hits the dirt. Like their cut isn't complete unless the saw turns some dirt. They always are working with a dull chain. Duh!  :D

Kinda reminds me of a fellow student in college, when he tied his tie (we wore them lots back then) he couldn't get the wide end longer than the narrow end, so he just cut off the narrow end with the scissors.  :)  His ties just kept getting shorter and shorter, and he never was interested in learning how to tie it right.

I never, ever loan my saws to anyone, (save for some FF members that I haven't met yet but know they know saws)   but will go along with the saw to do some sawing if it's needed.  :)
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2005, 04:07:16 pm »
Might try beating the chain over his head , that may loosen some dirt in two places.  :D ;)
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2005, 06:28:51 am »
I talked to a Husky rep at a promotion arrangement at my local dealers place yesterday.
When I mentioned claning air filters and chain in the dishwasher, he told me that he knew a saw tech who actually had an old one in his workshop. If needed, he cleaned the whole saw in it, after stripping off covers etc and sealing off where nesassary.
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2005, 06:08:48 am »
I olny loan my saws to someone who has one of their own and but needs a bigger one and if I know them to be careless like that they don't get mine. I may however go with the saw, you never know, you might even end up with some free logs cut the right length. Plan on using the metal detector. Had I lent it out however and it came back like that I would tell them that the chain needs to be replaced and how much they cost, I would pro-rate the replacement roughly based on wear on teath when lent. Then I would rinse it in kerosene and sharpen it and use it if good enough.
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2005, 10:14:27 am »
I wouldn't charge em nothing.  What I would do is, without calling names, use the ruined chain and  the story behind it  as a excuse to stop loaning tools

Exceptions could be made then if you ever did not mind loaning someone something.
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2005, 04:41:57 pm »
I like the beat the dirt off by" wacking him over the head with it". It is truely amazing the "professionals " out there cutting trees who have no clue as to proper chain maint. and sharpening, I know a few and they ruined one of mine by not sharpening it and rounding back the full chisel edge >:(, needless to say they have worn out their welcome. REID
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2005, 05:24:07 pm »
Woodmiser

With friends like that have you thought of becoming a hermit?
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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2005, 06:46:53 am »
Regarding cleaning saws in a dishwasher, remove the ignition coil first. You also need to be positive that no water got into the engine. I`d probably put the piston at the bottom of it`s stroke to seal the crankcase and then work on sealing the exhaust port. Getting water out of the top end would be easier than removing it from the base and any chemical scouring of the lubricating oil would seem to be less immediately damaging to the top than it would be on the bearings.

I know of one guy said to be a saw builder who claims that his saws arrive at the owner's home pristine and new looking because he runs them through the dishwasher after building them. I also know of one brand new 372 that he built that grenaded on it`s first tank of gas from what he claims was a bad crank bearing. Coincidence?

About the dirty chain, you almost have to assume that the saw will return with a rocked out chain if you loan it out. Think about it, who takes care of somone else's equipment as well as they should and how many people who don`t own saws know anything about their care and maintenance?

I`d chalk this one up as a learning experience and refuse to loan the saw again unless the  person borrowing it supplied the chain up front. Simply tell the person, "Chains are very reasonable, you can easily purchase one for less than the cost of renting a saw like mine for an afternoon. Here is where you can get one.....". You`re still being generous because who knows what undue wear he is putting on the bar and powerhead.

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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2005, 12:12:03 am »
> You`re still being generous because who knows what undue wear he is putting on the bar
> and powerhead.

Yea, someone putting the saw into the dirt probably is not going to be using the proper cuts or wedges and jamming the top of the bar in the kerf and then just yanking it out when it gets stuck. Worse thing will be when your friend kills himself with your saw.

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Re: chain full of dirt
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2005, 12:47:45 pm »
I think loaning out would include a "Oh, it needs a new chain 1st, they are like $$. If you can pay for one, then you can borrow it"
I usually try to return stuff in better shape then I recd it.

 


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