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Offline farmerdoug

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2007, 08:30:56 pm »
Interesting idea but it looks like it did not take off.  One problem I have with it is that it talks like aluminum is hard to recycle.  It is one of the easiest to recycle and conserves the most energy doing it too.

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2007, 08:44:10 pm »
Yeah, it's the original process of separation from the boxite that ain't so efficient. Call me Mr Magnate. ;D I've been in the Alcan Smelter in Kitimat and the pens and paper clips gravitate to the ceiling.  :D

I don't know that it mentioned it being difficult to recycle. I think maybe they are looking at alternative methods.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2007, 08:49:32 pm »

 Sounds good to me  8) 8)

  What if ya don't drink Sody Pop ???
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2007, 09:05:27 pm »
Buy pies. :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2007, 09:15:24 pm »
 :D :D Oh boy, another 'barrel of monkeys' ;D :D

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #45 on: January 25, 2007, 09:45:16 pm »
 8) 8)  griffin industries  northern ky picks up used grease and such from restuarnts  sells it to lykens oil northern ky where it is refined and then used in diesel oil i think i heard about five pc i found out a while back when my fuel filters started stopping up on my trucks :o :o

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #46 on: January 25, 2007, 10:19:26 pm »
In our town there is a garbage transfer station where metals,cardboard,plastic etc is separated when people bring stuff into the yard.There is a guy that works there and I spoke to him several months ago about setting aside some tanks and I would pay a finders fee of $20 cash for each tank and also pay the dumping fee when I brought the metal skin and insulation back after stripping the tank.He wrote it down in his book with my name and phone number and the dia tanks needed.
I've gone back a few times and he draws a blank and then after I reintroduce myself,he takes down my name and phone number and dia of tanks needed.
Yesterday I went by and told him what I was looking for and he told me there was a tank in "just the other day" that fit that discription.He told me he was starting to keep a book for these types of things,so he took my name and phone number as well as the tank dia needed.See the pattern here? Ever see Bill Murray in Groundhog Day?This guy is my age for Petes sake. smiley_dizzy

He checks each load brought in anyway,all he has to do to make an extra $20 is to lay a tape measure across the top of the HW tank.If it is to specs,flop it on the ground and pick up the phone and I would be by with cash in hand and the tank would be out of his way.

Must be patient,must be patient. smiley_fused_bomb
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2007, 07:25:43 am »
Know any Plumbers, Paul. That's the direct hotline to tank failures.  ;) :) :)
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2007, 10:36:00 am »
I had one plumber keeping an eye out the past few months but this past week I've contacted a few more.What they are telling me is that the newer tanks are a standard diameter so the larger capacity tanks are taller instead of wider.They tell me the 22" tanks are still out there,just not as many.
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2007, 11:53:43 am »
 Guess I just gotta know, WHY does it HAVE to be 22" ???  Won't the wood smoke in a slimmer tank ???  ::) ::) ::)

  If the plans call for that, remember, those plans are 20 years old or more  ??? ::) ::)

  On another note, a 60 gallon tank will only hold around 48 gallons ???  Sounds like the same Engineers that designed the 2 X 4 ???   They ain't 2 X 4 either ???
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2007, 12:38:09 pm »
There is supposed to be around a 2" gap between the inside and outside tank so the overall difference needs to be 4" in dia.I have lots of 100lbs, 16" propane tanks at my disposal but there doesn't seem to be any 20-22" tanks handy. 16" inside 18" would be a tight squeeze.

Besides all that,I'm really stubborn. ;)
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2007, 01:46:40 pm »
 ::) ::) :D :D :D :D
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2007, 03:04:49 pm »
Not only that, he's probably not suffering yet for wheels either.  ;D :D

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2007, 03:06:18 pm »
Got my first 22" tank 8)

I phoned the main office of the recycling company and asked if he minded if I drove up to the Whistler transfer depot and spoke with the lead hand  in person and they told me that would be just fine.I drew up a little diagram with the dimension and included my name and number and drove the 35 minutes up there to drop it off and meet them.
Both guys up there are on the ball and they promised to set some aside for me.It turned out they had the right sized tank(22") in a bin and the lead hand went with me an helped toss it in the back of my truck.

They had heard nothing from the main office  ::)
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2007, 05:51:22 pm »

 Hot DanG. Smoke gets in yer eyes.  8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2007, 06:12:28 pm »
Hey I forgot. There is a feller up the road, and unless I'm totally a corn ball here, who has a tank hooked up to some kind of tractor that he made himself ? Some day, when I get up the courage, I'm gonna stop in and get the story. For all I know that old hot water tank might be holding petrol gas. ;D  :D

And yes, if ever there was a bunch that fit the phrase "just rolled in on a turnip wagon, that be them". ;D

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2007, 10:50:02 pm »
It turns out the tank was only 20" but I can make it work,it'll just be tight to fit the 16, 3/8" pipes between the feed tank and the outside wall.The OD of the pipe is 5/8" and it has to fit in the 13/16" space between tanks.Drilling 11/16" holes on a steep concave slope will be a challenge too.



I cut an 18 inch tank at 33" to build the feed tank and hearth





After the tank was cut the bottom was measured to fit the hearth and 16 holes marked out to fit the 3/8" air pipe supply pipes to the nozzles.





The enamel on the bottom of the tank was really flying when heat was applied
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2007, 10:53:46 pm »
The hearth of cast iron is needed to prevent the air from cutting the red hot metal in the hearth zone.The temperatures at the hearth restrictions will be between 1700-2000F
The engine that will be powered with the woodgas is a 302 cu in and according to the plans,the hearth opening  5" dia.I bought a 8" and a 10" cast iron frying pans and cooked the oils out of them in the woodstove and then drilled a cirle pattern and knocked out the center.







The two cast iron pans were place back to back as shown in the diagram above,and placed on an old junker propane BBQ to preheat and keep hot while welding together with Nickel rod.After the welding was finished,the hearth was wrapped in pink insulation and placed in a bin of sand and then covered over in more sand andsawdust to cool slowly.





I'm still in the process of fitting the hearth in the tank but the pic shows the general idea.The hearth will have a screen of 1/8" Stainless steel wire.Tomorrow I'll take the die grinder to the hearth opening and pretty things up a bit.
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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2007, 11:07:26 pm »
Working by headlight?

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Re: Wood burning truck!
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2007, 11:21:56 pm »
No,just the running lights on the car belonging to Tom's friend.It was a clear blue day but the camera made the pics look dark :)

This will be the truck for this project.It's a 79 F100 2wd standard trans.We'll go to town and pick it up friday and bring it home.It won't be ready to fit for who knows when but I want it handy.

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