Wood burning truck!

[Stump Jumper]

sweet  almost ready to take your wife out on the town in that fine ford 

[sprucebunny]

Congratulations, Paul !

 

I'm very impressed !

[GF]

Cool video, and cool wood gas truck, make sure you stop by here on your tour with it, I want to get a close look at it.  Nothing is more gratifying than when something you build comes together.  Congrats are in order. 

Gary

[Paul_H]

Thank you all for the encouragement,advice and prodding,it helped along the way and it held me accountable when I wanted to slack off.
I still have a ways to go before driving it but work is slow right now so I'll make the best of it.The woodgas throttle is hooked to the gas pedal right now and the air/fuel flap is connected properly to a control cable in the cab so I will try to fire it back up tomorrow morning and let it run an hour or so.

Maybe even move it across the yard.


Here is another video from the Swedes driving an old Forson on woodgas


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The Forestry Forum CRASH OF 2007 ARCHIVES
General Forestry => Alternative Methods and Solutions => Topic started by: Jeff on September 16, 2007, 05:10:50 PM


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Title: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Jeff on September 16, 2007, 05:10:50 PM
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This is a thread I want to see here. One of the first things of hundreds I have thought of that we dont have at the moment. Also the Bio-Mizer thread. and on and on.  The photo thing will be another thing to tackle.

Paul, tell me the truck is still in yer yard eh?


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on September 16, 2007, 05:19:44 PM
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Yep,I had it running again Thurday for over an hour on 100% woodgas,I even moved it a few feet.I am in the process of connecting control cableschoke on the primary gasoline side and air/fuel flap and idle cable on the woodgas side so everything can be contolled from the cab.

I was crawling around the engine Friday but when I tried to start the engine on gasoline yesterday,it wouldn't quite go.The plugs are clean but the spark is really weak.When I had the engine fire last week,the wires to the coil got burned a little.
There is lots of gasoline at the carb and compression seems to be okay(according to my thumb test) 


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: sawdust on September 16, 2007, 07:51:59 PM
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Evening Paul, I did not really follow this thread last trip around   "BC" Before Crash!

I have an old R130 International Harvester Truck that only makes 5 mpg with a 212 cid motor.
might be perfect for converting. So, did you start out with a particular book on converting?

I remember hearing my Grandmother talking about the guy nextdoor during the war, his taxi ran on smoke. They were Danish, I gather smoke was big there.

sawdust



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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: farmerdoug on September 16, 2007, 08:52:58 PM
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Paul,  I wonder what they would think of your truck at the US/Canadian border?  When you leave Michigan you would have throw out your extra fuel.

Farmerdoug


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on September 16, 2007, 08:58:04 PM
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farmerdoug,

is that on account of the EAB or do they need the firewood? It reminds me of the guy pulled over by the police and asked if he has any booze.

He tells the cop to stop mooching and buy his own


Sawdust,

I started out with a design that was known to work.Mothewr Earth news designed and built a gasifier and drove it coast to coast with no major problems.The plans were $15 and they included 3 poster sized pages of drawings,diagrams,photos and instructions as well as an updated booklet with plans for building dual fuel carbs.
I haven't seen any other set of plans for a gasifier that is even close to being as comprehensive and put in laymens for the backyard tinkerer as these are.What I didn't understand,I asked about here on the forum and received excellent help.

There is a 30% power loss with woodgas so a larger engine for the cornbinder might be a good move.Jeff Davis built a system to drive a IH truck back in the early 1980's

Here are a couple links to the story of the MEN gasifier

Mother Earth News (http://www.motherearthnews.com/Homesteading-and-Self-Reliance/1981-05-01/Mothers-Woodburning-Truck.aspx)

and a link to order the plans

MEN plans (http://www.motherearthshopping.com/detail.aspx?ItemNumber=762)

here are some photos of the construction of my MEN gasifier on Yahoo.You may have to sign up.

Photos (http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/WoodGas/photos/browse/b4e7)


Here is a You Tube of the truck finally up and running on 100% woodgas.










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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: jpgreen on September 18, 2007, 12:20:05 AM
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I've got a 1970 binder scout that I think will be my first gasser.  It's got the little V8 314 I believe industrail engine- posi all around, and 4 on the floor.. 

I've got the engine out, heads rebuilt, and gonna put a ring and bearing kit. Probably install a receiver hitch and make a platform off of that for the woodgas.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: MikeH on September 18, 2007, 10:05:09 PM
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 O.K.   so what is woodgas?


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: sawdust on September 18, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
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My nontechnical knowledge of this. Heating (in this case) wood to a temperature that causes the wood to decompose into gas. This gas then can be drawn into an engine cylinder with sufficient oxygen and ignited. The gas is mostly carbon monoxide a bit of methane. If you search wood gasification there are some excellent resources.

I have some really technical books that I don't understand all that well!

sawdust


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Jeff on September 25, 2007, 06:35:49 PM
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Paul, I'll see what I can do about coding back in a way for YOUTube videos to work within the forum. Not sure how to do it yet as this software code is quite different then the old.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Jeff on September 25, 2007, 07:49:44 PM
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You Tube Video of Pauls Truck Test
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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: jokers on September 30, 2007, 08:04:45 AM
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Quote from: farmerdoug on September 16, 2007, 08:52:58 PM
Paul,  I wonder what they would think of your truck at the US/Canadian border?  When you leave Michigan you would have throw out your extra fuel.

Farmerdoug

Only if his extra fuel had any bark on it.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Roxie on September 30, 2007, 08:40:37 AM
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That is awesome!   Wow!   


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Noble on September 30, 2007, 10:56:38 AM
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That Paul is really something   For some of the newer members that are just getting acquainted with Paul,  his posts on remodling his house and dressing up for work are worth reading   I'm gonna look them up again when they are available.

Paul,  your neighbors and I are really curious as to what your next project will be.  They may be a little nervous too


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: SwampDonkey on September 30, 2007, 11:15:08 AM
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We'll have her all back in time. We've got good men working on it. 

Paul's just like an artist surrounding himself, or isolating himself, however you view it, with all that wide open space and scenery. Gives him inspiration to dream and get down to it, to make things happen as he envisions it, or at least give it a try. All the while making a living in the woods, and such, like a good many others.

I don't hardly know Paul, but that's my take on him. 

Most of that stuff he's posted and tried to explain, I ain't even got a clue. 


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: sawdust on September 30, 2007, 11:17:03 AM
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Noble, You will have to add some pause and inflection to these words....

Mornin Paul,,,, whatcha building?,,, oh ,,,why?

 

sawdust

 

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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Norm on September 30, 2007, 12:19:44 PM
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Quote from: Noble on September 30, 2007, 10:56:38 AM
Paul,  your neighbors and I are really curious as to what your next project will be.  They may be a little nervous too


Especially if they've got some cast iron frying pans.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Furby on September 30, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
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Here ya go Noble!



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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 12, 2007, 09:34:37 PM
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I insured the truck for 3 days and took it for a spin out on the road.My truck is high geared so I have to take a little run at the incline to the road.I was a little nervouse because there are narrow shoulders and deep ditches for the most part around here so there isn't a lot of room to pull over if there is a failure. roll_eyes





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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Mooseherder on October 12, 2007, 09:40:23 PM
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Too DanG Cool!



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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 12, 2007, 09:41:52 PM
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Here's another on that Carla filmed in the Industrial park near us.It's a good spot to test because the traffic is light and anything goes 

Yes,she realises her windshield needs cleaning

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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: TexasTimbers on October 12, 2007, 09:48:38 PM
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I love it! 

In the second video she hardly keep up with you!  And on that last turn I heard her make a little sound of exasperation . . . "Uh!" when she though you were going to keep going I think. 

Too cool. Man that truck is just way to cool!!!


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Furby on October 12, 2007, 09:49:29 PM
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Way to go!


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 12, 2007, 09:58:01 PM
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Quote from: TexasTimbers on October 12, 2007, 09:48:38 PM
And on that last turn I heard her make a little sound of exasperation . . . "Uh!" when she though you were going to keep going I think. 



That's exactly what happened 




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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Fla._Deadheader on October 12, 2007, 10:44:47 PM
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 Can't view the video's, but, LOOKS GOOD. Congrats, Paul 


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 13, 2007, 04:50:19 AM
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Looks like some good fun. I couldn't view the video, but I can just imagine. 


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Norm on October 13, 2007, 09:02:03 AM
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Cool!

Way to go Paul.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: TRanger on October 13, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
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Makes a whole new meaning to "go out and warm up the truck".


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Don P on October 13, 2007, 01:08:26 PM
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Waaay Cool !! 

It was worth the wait for the video just so I could play it back for the wife  . Is there any way to save those? I saw there were several others that looked interesting.

When are you starting production  .


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: beenthere on October 13, 2007, 01:24:28 PM
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Don P
I just add them to my favorites (Ms IE).  They save that way.

I'd like to bug Paul H to take the camera with him on a drive, and then we could hear the truck run, and his commentary goin down the road...accelerating, and getting excited.   

(I'm sure by now he has taken care of the windshield for his wife.. )


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 13, 2007, 11:44:57 PM
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I wish you guys lived a little closer

I cut up a bunch of dry 1x2 Birch stickers into 3" lengths today for the gasifier.The stickers have been stacked under cover of the mill shed from a floor we milled a year and a half ago.

I put on 20 kilometres(12 miles) on the highway North of me and it climbed the hills pretty well.There is a 30% power loss with woodgas and it is noticable but the 302 has power enough for putting around here.My top speed was 45 mph,not because of powering out with the engine but on account of a haywire frontend on the truck.
I described the symptoms to Marcel at the Pig roast and he figures the tie rod ends have had the biscuit.When cornering,it wants to break free and it's a bit of work to bring it back into line.Almost takes the fun out of it.

It'll go into the shop this week while I'm at work and get sorted out because I want to drive it a few more times before snowfall.

Beenthere,

I'll plan on getting somebody to ride along with the camera as soon as possible.We had no babysitter today or else Carla would have been game

The gasifier runs much better on Birch that it does on Douglas Fir.

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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: stonebroke on October 14, 2007, 02:58:16 AM
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Has anybody ever built a woodgas electrical generator or is it not practical?

Stonebroke


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: TexasTimbers on October 14, 2007, 01:16:35 PM
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i don't know but notable accomplishments like Pauls often start with a question like you have proffered. I imagine him seeing one for the first time and saying "Hmm. Why can't I build one of those?"

Well you have taken the first step stonebroke. Keep us posted on your progress. 
Quote from: Paul_H on October 13, 2007, 11:44:57 PM
I wish you guys lived a little closer

We ain't gonna move north of the Red River but a visit might be in ordr after we move into the house. I am beginning to plot a getaway to the NW with some heavy cargo. That way you would get a log worth putting on that MD. If I shipp it, it's gotta be small.

I have to break it to the boss at the right time. She loves to travel but it's a 4 day drive I think. She might balk unless I planned out some nice stops alomg the way. I bet I can sell it to her. I am liking the idea pretty good.
I bet you didn't think your passing comment would have such an effect on anyone eh?   

But two conditions. We get a ride in the truck and you can't use the osage for fuel! 


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Roy M on October 14, 2007, 01:37:01 PM
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  That is way too much fun. Looking really good Paul.Did you get brave enough to try the hill out of Mt Currie?


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 14, 2007, 01:48:21 PM
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stonebroke,

Mother Earth News built a woodgas system for electrical power generation in the early 1980's.The problem with stationary units is the fuel can bridge and gas production suffers so the rub is designing a shaker to keep the fuel moving.
Greg Manning from Manitoba,Canada is working on a CHP(combined heat and power) for his farm using woodgas.The engine will run the generator and the coolant from the engine will heat his home.Greg is pretty innovative and I don't doubt he'll succeed at it.

He designs and builds his own systems and knows the numbers.

Link (http://www.inetlink.ca/a31ford/cgcmb/)


Kevin,

come on up,there is a place here for the both of you while you stay and there is a resident Texan with a 57 Chevy 4 door with 4wd just down the road if you get homesick .

Roy,

it was the hill towards Anderson Lake not the Joffre switchbacks towards Lillooet although that is my ultimate goal.The little Ford is high geared,even for gasoline so I'd like to change out the gears in the rear end.
The truck has a manual 3 spd with OD with no granny gear like 1st.

Anybody got some ideas?





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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Roy M on October 14, 2007, 01:59:38 PM
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Is there a tag on the diff indicating the current ratio? With the o.d. it might be 3.23 or 3.36:1. A lot of newer trucks with over drive automatics run 3.55:1 so a recycling yard replacement should be readily available.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: Paul_H on October 14, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
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I looked and the tag reads like this,

DM   CJ   8MA

75    9    3 56A


Is that a high geared ratio?I'm not too familiar with diff ratios.


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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: SwampDonkey on October 14, 2007, 02:55:32 PM
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Quote from: Paul_H on October 13, 2007, 11:44:57 PM
I wish you guys lived a little closer



Quote from: TexasTimbers on October 14, 2007, 01:16:35 PM

We ain't gonna move north of the Red River but a visit might be in ordr after we move into the house.



You can go a little ways north then, as it flows into Lake Winnipeg in Manitoba way to the north.


[Tidbit] Interestingly enough the 49th parallel was the dividing line of the red river basin and the border.

Just having some fun. 



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Title: Re: Paul's wood burning truck
Post by: olyman on October 14, 2007, 06:10:58 PM
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paul---3.56 gears arent real tall--but a set of 3.73---or 3.92's would do better for you--had a truck i was going to put a posi in--but it was 31--not 28 spline--and lower gears also--and he had a trans just like you--didint take off real quick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Paul_H]

Here is a little recap video I did on Sunday because it was too wet and miserable outside to work on the truck.It was fun putting it together,turn up your volume 





Edit : I changed the video music because of a copyright issue with Johnny Cash's Ring of Fire

[sawguy21]

Something is lost in the translation, all I get is a white square.

[Jeff]

I like it!

[sawguy21]

Now it works, that was good.

[TexasTimbers]

 

I bet Mr. Cash had no idea he wrote that song just for your video. Perfect fit. 

Can't wait for part two. Got the music picked out yet?

P.S. I can't believe you were out there in sub-arctic conditions building that thing. You are one tough hombre.

[OneWithWood]

Nice work, Paul.

I enjoyed the video very much and the music too 

[sawguy21]

Kev, if Paul hibernated during the snow season he would not get nearly as much done.

[farmerdoug]

Paul H,

How the truck coming?  Do you have it driving around yet or is it too cold for wood gas up your way this time of year?

Farmerdoug

[jpgreen]

Too cool- Paul and Johnny.. 

[sprucebunny]

Great  video, Paul 

Thanks !!

[solidwoods]

http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml

int. combustion engine runs a generator = your off the grid with elec. and hot water.
jim

[twobears]

 DEL PATS PAUL ON THE BACK and says "way to gitter done.PAUL:thats one very cool project and you did a great job of building it.

 delbert

[isawlogs]

  Paul , you know I got one of the fastessss  internet connections   Oh , just woke up ..    I dont go see too many video's cause of the snail connection that I have here , Acftualy a snail is quite fast if compared to my connection ... 
 But for you mon ami , I have made an exeption , I went and took a look at your  you tub adventures ... 

   Took over three hours to look at those four video's , but man where they worth it   

  I have two more to have a looks see .. gonna wait till tomorow , supose to snow some ,
I got the making of , the test ride in da yard , the sawing of da log , and the on da road test with Carla . Uh !!!!   

  Hats off to you , ya did a great job there Paul .....