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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #120 on: October 13, 2005, 04:58:34 pm »
Ok!  I'll let him know that and wont have to report him. That means I can give him a good lecture and still get rid of my wood! Thanks Erin. :)
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #121 on: October 14, 2005, 10:54:24 am »
That's me job!
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #122 on: October 18, 2005, 11:31:37 pm »
So when are we going to hear some results of the trap tree survey?  The trees around here cut and chipped some time ago.  There must be preliminary findings.  Is the public going to be let in on it in timely matter or is it going to be some deep dark secret that's kept as long as possible? 
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #123 on: October 19, 2005, 03:56:55 pm »
As far as I know they are still in the removal process.  I haven't heard any results yet.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #124 on: October 19, 2005, 08:19:00 pm »
Let us know some results as soon as you can  Thanks :) :)
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #125 on: October 26, 2005, 08:44:14 pm »
Update on the guy who hid the ash firewood in his motor home to cross the Mackinaw Bridge. On the news this morning they reported he got a thousand dollar fine. Lucky him it could have been 10,000 dollars.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #126 on: October 26, 2005, 10:24:55 pm »
I think this is one case they should have made an example out of. The guy KNEW what he was doing and intentionally tried to hide the wood.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #127 on: October 26, 2005, 11:36:00 pm »



A thousand dollars would make me sit at home for awhile.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #128 on: October 27, 2005, 01:04:50 pm »
I dont think he should have been sitting at home. I think he should have been sitting in jail.
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« Reply #129 on: October 27, 2005, 09:02:05 pm »
I'm with ya 100% Jeff
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #130 on: November 16, 2005, 08:28:16 pm »
So when are we going to hear some results of the trap tree survey?  The trees around here cut and chipped some time ago.  There must be preliminary findings.  Is the public going to be let in on it in timely matter or is it going to be some deep dark secret that's kept as long as possible? 

Last year the trees around here were cut and chipped. (Midland County)   This year we had one by our house,  I wondered if they missed it.  Just noticed today they stripped the bark off and cut it down.  Saw another tree cut the same way when I drove over to our farm to go hunting today.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #131 on: December 22, 2005, 12:19:15 pm »
FYI
  When looking at the MDA/EAB website www.michigan.gov/eab be careful that what you are looking at is for you.  In a post waaaaay back in this thread someone mentions the FAQ for contractors.  That is in regards to the State Sponsored Ash Removal Contracts (ARC).  The EAB ARC is a contract between the State and pre-approved contractors to remove trees for Homeowners (ONLY through the Municipal Coordinator!) and the Municipality.  Under this contract a community within the EAB quarantined counties can access the State contract and the contract has set price limits for the removal of Ash Trees.
  The contract limits pricing on ash trees only, living/dead/healthy/infested ash trees.  Only the contractors working under this contract are obligated to honor those prices, and only when the contract is accessed by the community's acting Municipal Coordinator.  The community decides if they will participate according to need and interest of the residents.  Trees are inventoried and measured.  Pricing is according to tree size and location (back yard trees are considered harder and cost more).  The purpose of the contract is to help ease the burden to the homeowner when trying to remove a tree that could pose a risk to the public and property.  It is NOT intended to eradicate the insect.  The contract applies only to areas that are considered generally infested, so movement, use, and disposal of the materials is allowed in any way that does not violate the EAB quarantine.
  Originally the contract required un-used materials be disposed of at the "closest EAB Marshalling Yard."  Due to cutbacks in Federal funding and the preference of the USDA that funding be used in areas where control or eradication might be effective (rather than clean up efforts) the State of MI is no longer able to offer free disposal of ash materials.  Soooo we eased up on where the materials are disposed of, as long as the quarantine is adhered to.
  Also an important note!  Ash materials can be moved outside of the quarantine UNDER A COMPLIANCE AGREEMENT (sorry, I am not shouting just want to be clear).  Compliance Agreements (CAs) can be written to fit almost any situation, and require that materials be handled properly.  One example would be for a sawmill outside of the quarantine to receive infested ash logs during the "non-flight" season.  So long as the logs are de-barked, slabbed of 1/2" of exterior wood, and the slabs are disposed of before flight season begins.  Disposal could mean hauling the slabwood back into the quarantine, burning the materials, or chipping the materials to 1" or less (in at least two dimensions).
  You all have so many good insights and questions but Shotgun's suggestion is best.  Call someone from the MDA and talk to people that have the facts.  Other agencies may know about EAB but are not always accurate with the details.  For instance booking a reservation in a campground, you might be instructed not to bring firewood, or told not to bring ash firewood, or not told anything about firewood.  You can, and will be in violation of the quarantine if you are transporting "non-coniferous" firewood out of the quarantine.  Even if it isn't ash!  Beleive it or not some people in this world can't identify ash wood from other species, particularly when its been cut into firewood.  As such the quarantine is not just for Ash firewood.  Also any logs (any "non-coniferous" spp) 4' or less in length that will be turned into firewood are a regulated item and can lead to prosecution.
  I'll stop blathering on now, know the facts, and if possible get it in writing.
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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2005, 05:42:35 pm »
Here is an article on Excite about EAB and what is going on to eradicate this bug.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20051225/D8EN0TOG8.html


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Re: emerald ash borer
« Reply #133 on: April 14, 2006, 08:47:24 am »
Didn't know where to put this, so I thought I would put it here.  After 2 fun filled years with the EAB program, I have accepted a new position in Topeka, Kansas, effective 6/5/06.  I will still be with the USDA, just not with the EAB program.  I had a great time here keeping you informed of the issue and meeting all of you.  I will try to peek in occasionally to see what is going on here.  It will be sad to leave Michigan and the program, but this move will put my family in a better position.  Thank you for letting me into your lives.
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« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2006, 08:49:48 am »
Good luck to you Estiers.  I have appreciated your willingness to keep us informed.
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« Reply #135 on: April 14, 2006, 09:31:15 am »
Thanks for all your help here - good wishes to you and your family in KS.  Make sure you let us know who your replacement is (and let them know about the FF).

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« Reply #136 on: April 14, 2006, 11:36:41 am »
Thanks for being a part of the forum estiers. I also have a friend into bugs who just moved from Radford, Va to northern Idaho this winter. He's registered on here, but I think he fell off the globe since the move. ;D  :D


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« Reply #137 on: April 21, 2006, 09:53:16 pm »
I haven't read extensivly about how the emerald ash borer spreads and have been wondering about it. It seems that the effort is primarily in controling the movement of wood. I work in the summer clearing lof jams in some area rivers. It has occured to me that the river systems would be a considerable threat to the spread of the bug. I don't believe it's much of a streach that if the bugs fall in the water they might survive and climb out somewhere along the stream. I have been on the look-out for any infestations/damaged or dieback of ash trees but have not seen anything conclusive yet. I live just south of M-21 and have noticed that quite a few miles of that road is lined with ash trees. With their proximity to 2 major sawmills and a veneer yard it would seem logical to remove those trees. So far the state hasn't done that.
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« Reply #138 on: April 21, 2006, 10:10:41 pm »
I've heard from a very reliable source that with the exception of the check point at the Bridge Michigan's  EAB program is for the most part toast.  The budget has been axed :(
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« Reply #139 on: April 23, 2006, 09:17:01 am »
You're not surprised by this old news, are you?
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