Author Topic: And The Law Won (Read 10135 times)

Ron Scott · « **on:** April 06, 2005, 04:38:20 pm »

Michigan

A subject caught illegally cutting trees on state land by a CO lost the three chainsaws used in the crime in court recently. This was the "second time" the officer had caught the subject cutting trees using the same saws.

Roxie · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:05:26 pm »

I will never be too old to love it when the good guys win!

I'm glad they confiscated the saws, they should have also taken their vehicle used to transport the stolen lumber! THAT would really slow them down!

sawguy21 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2005, 09:34:58 pm »

Did he use an interpretor and claim he did not understand the law? That is the common poacher's scam here. One got nailed hard by an unsympathetic judge on his third appearance

asy · « **Reply #3 on:** April 07, 2005, 07:26:38 am »

THere was a guy here in Australia who cut down a huge tract of state forest, theoretically so he could more easilly move his cows from one side of it to the other...

Now, this offence is punishable by jail here (not chainsaw confiscation!).

But, this guy being in his 70's negotiated to give the state about (from memory) 10 times the acreage that he'd cut down, on the other side of the forest.

The figured that was best so they went and had a look at it. They agreed and the paperwork was started.

Imagine their 'surprise' when they found out that in between giving him the OK and the paperwork going through he CLEARFELLED THE AREA!!!!!

They were not impressed.

asy

PS: These are the facts as I recall them from the news. The real may be slightly differrent. (I will try to find the actual account)

Tom · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2005, 09:10:06 am »

Those might not be the exactly true facts, but, that shoujldn't stop a good story.

The guy has Moxie. What did they do the second time he took the trees? It sounds to me like this guy is self-proclaimed "country lawyer".

OLD_ JD · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2005, 09:14:53 am »

over here we can't cut on public land coze the stump fee is ALL own by the big sawmill

..who i think is realy stupide coze all the small forester could do a good leaving out of that land by just management.Here in quebec u have to know then 85% of the teritory is public

...that a LOT of wood lot who just get destroy by the big sawmill

SwampDonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2005, 04:12:05 pm »

One of the local sawmills also owns an I-Joist plant. Recently they had to shut down 1 of the 3 shifts because they can't get enough black spruce locally to supply the plant. They have been buying from Quebec at $600/thousand as I recall being published in the YSC Marketing Board newsletter.

cheers

Quebecnewf · « **Reply #7 on:** April 07, 2005, 07:38:45 pm »

when you say the mill can't get enough black spruce where is this mill and what size of black spruce are they buying. In our area of QUEBEC there is lots of black spruce but it is small

J D in AUS · « **Reply #8 on:** April 08, 2005, 07:18:27 pm »

Arsy Gentleman in question DID NOT Clearfell . He only took the good saw logs I have known him probley 40 years J D in sunny Qld.

WV_hillbilly · « **Reply #9 on:** April 24, 2005, 10:29:19 am »

Here's a good one that occured locally . Two peple were arrested Thursday after a controlled buy . No it wasn't drugs , it was for standing timber . Late last month these 2 stated that they owned 3 tracts of standing timber and contacted a logger . The logger made payments in excess of $120,000 dollars to these individuals . He then found out that they didn't own the timber or the land that the timber was on . The police had the logger set up another money transaction with these 2 and arrested them after the money changed hands .

Hopefully those two will get prison terms . They are facing 3rd degree felony charges .

Ron Scott · « **Reply #10 on:** May 02, 2005, 08:50:05 pm »

Michigan

A walnut tree valued at close to $7,000.00 was cut down by two subjects in the Barry State Game Area. After a lengthy investigation the CO finally got enough evidence to obtain arrest warrants for the two responsible parties.

asy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 02, 2005, 10:22:13 pm »

Quote from: J D in AUS on April 08, 2005, 07:18:27 pm

Arsy Gentleman in question DID NOT Clearfell . He only took the good saw logs I have known him probley 40 years J D in sunny Qld.

Aaah, well, there ya go...

AS I said, I couldn't remember the exact details, only what I read in the papers (as accurate as they are)

I thought the papers said he CLearfelled, so he could move cattle from one paddock to another...

Thanks For setting me straight J D.

What ended up happenning ??

Is he OK? I sure hope he didn't get incarcerated, he didn't look very well on the telly.

asy (Also in sunny QLD)

Ron Scott · « **Reply #12 on:** May 03, 2005, 06:45:59 pm »

Michigan

A subject was working on his 6th pick-up load of timber, taken illegally from state land, when he was stopped by two CO's. Two tickets were issued, one for timber theft and one for driving on a suspended license.

Doc · « **Reply #13 on:** May 04, 2005, 01:29:45 pm »

Quote from: Ron Scott on May 03, 2005, 06:45:59 pm

Michigan

A subject was working on his 6th pick-up load of timber, taken illegally from state land, when he was stopped by two CO's. Two tickets were issued, one for timber theft and one for driving on a suspended license.

Tickets issued?

I woudl have thought they woudl have issued a new set of shiney bracelets for the theft side anyway.....

Odd..

Doc

sawguy21 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 08, 2005, 08:22:32 pm »

I am surprised they weren't using a stolen truck

Ron Scott · « **Reply #15 on:** May 30, 2005, 05:33:31 pm »

Checking up on a vehicle that a CO saw following a two track on state land, the CO blocked the exit and truged in on foot and caught the vehicle parked by a loggers pile of cut hardwood trees.

The subjects were helping themselves to the wood until the officer told them to put the wood back. They were given tickets. (The logger might not have been so lenient)

hawby · « **Reply #16 on:** May 30, 2005, 09:54:52 pm »

I am cutting oak at a horse farm that is right on the edge of a development. The land owners had many trees taken down to clear way for a new horse barn. While the LO was away for 3 hours, someone came in and cut up ten of the best logs for firewood.

The DanG thing is, there was two piles of short logs on either side that WILL be firewood.

So now we have to drop a few more trees to get enought ot finish the stall boards.

Some people.....

Ron Scott · « **Reply #17 on:** September 25, 2005, 10:43:47 am »

Michigan

A subject who has taken approximately $20,000 in timber on state land
is now sitting in a jail cell.

rebocardo · « **Reply #18 on:** September 25, 2005, 01:52:16 pm »

> While the LO was away for 3 hours, someone came in and cut up ten of the best logs for firewood.

I would be too afraid to trespass, never mind getting out a saw to cut it up. They must have been watching for a while and there where probably two of them. This is where rock salt probably would come in handy.

Corley5 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 25, 2005, 02:00:10 pm »

I'm surprised that more timber isn't poached around here especially with the price that hard maple is fetching. I was doing some habitat in the Pigeon River Country the other day and was drooling over the veneer maple trees that dominated the stand on both sides of the trail into the openings. Big $$$$$ both literally and figuratively

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Author Topic: And The Law Won (Read 10135 times)