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Husky 372 vs. 575
« on: March 27, 2005, 05:32:10 pm »
It is time for another saw.  I have used several 372 with 20 bar and love them. Went to the local saw shop to check out a new saw.  They have a 372 and a 575.  The 372 is $619.95 and the 575 is $685.95 including chain and 20 inch bar.

I am not so concerned about price as they are 15 minutes away and give absolutely great service.  They will immediately check any saw problem I have and fix it immediately if its a 10 minute job or a day or two if major.  But I don't have to wait for a prognosis.

I have read the previous posts and have some concerns about the new 575 holding up.  But I understand it is more effiecient and will cut about 25 per cent more wood.

I am looking for all opinions on which way to go.
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2005, 08:25:38 pm »
I got the Bailey's sale flyer the other day, and they've got some 372's for sale in there.  I'm a Stihl guy, and I'm thinking about buying one!  I've not heard anything bad about the 372, and I'd guess that most guys would recommend it. 

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2005, 10:29:09 am »
The 372 is one of the best saws ever to come down the Husqvarna production line.

The 575 is NOT.

I purchased a new 575 back in November.  To date, I have used it exactly 4 days.  I just don't like the thing.
It has a more ergonomic handle, quieter muffler and leak proof gas/oil caps.

It weighs about a pound more than the 372.  It seems like a lot more.

As far as I'm concerned, the saw has less power than a 372.

Before I purchased the 575, my dealer told me how the 575 would get far better gasoline mileage.  I sure didn't notice any.

After using the 575 for 3 days, I immediately went out and found another source (my local dealer can't get any more 372's) to purchase a couple of 372's.

My 575 sits in my toolbox.  I regard it as one of the worst saws Husky has ever produced.

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2005, 01:37:18 pm »
Hoop, did you give the 575 enough break in time, or did you just dislike it overall. I found that my 350, like most power equipment, runs better after it's been "run in" for a while.


I been kicking around buying a 372 before they are gone!

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2005, 03:39:41 pm »
What about the 570?
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2005, 05:00:45 pm »
Hi Hoop,

I`m well aware of your displeasure with the 575 and can understand that it is not the apparent equal to the 372, BUT I think you could be happier with it if you adjusted your carb differently.

If your saw seems down on power compared to a stock 372 and it is also getting poor fuel economy, I`d be surprised if your carb isn`t adjusted too lean and your running against the rev limiter.

The factory spec for the limiter is 13,600 but mine actually comes on at anywhere from 13,400 to 13,600, it`s a moving target. What happens when you are on the limiter is that the sparkplug does not fire every time like it should which causes alot of wasted, unburnt fuel and lower than normal power. Mine is adjusted to 13,300 and has good power and very good fuel economy. Since you already have the saw, why not readjust your carb and see what happens? You also could have taken advantage of the Crown Commitment and returned that saw within 14 days if you are so unhappy. I`m sorry that you may not have known this.

The 570 is just a less powerful and somewhat cheaper 575. I`d get a 372 before they are all gone.

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2005, 12:01:40 pm »
Bought a 372xp today.  Dealer said Husky had told him you need a winter kit for operating 575 under 40 degrees because the carb is so far from heat.
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2005, 03:17:51 pm »
need a kit for under 40 degrees? wow, since when is + 40 considered cold?

I am by no means a expert when it comes to saws, but that sounds like one more strike against the 575.



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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2005, 03:31:44 pm »
Bought a 372xp today.  Dealer said Husky had told him you need a winter kit for operating 575 under 40 degrees because the carb is so far from heat.

Well does this statement make any sense to anyone? What`s going to happen, the saw turns into a pumpkin? Is this dealer implying that as long as fuel with water in it is kept warm enough to flow, it won`t cause damage to an engine? Is there general agreement here that water freezes at 32°F? What is the significance of 40° vs 32°?

Some statements smell so much like BS that you have to ask if that might be the case. I can say that my 575 ran fine at -10° with swirling snow in the air, I didn`t have to put the saw down in the snow so maybe that would be a problem, but I`m not sure that`s what is being alluded to.

Any more details Cedarman?

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2005, 03:36:20 pm »
Jokers,

go ahead, tell us how you really feel. 8)
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2005, 09:13:49 pm »
Well I know that water freezes in 32 degrees, BUT the flywheel spinning at over 13,000 rpm will DEFINETLY make it colder.  It also has to deal with the humitidy in the air too.  Not so much the cold ness.  I've ran my stihl 440 in 0 degree weather and it neaver froze up.  I didn't have the winter shutter on.  So it comes down tthe humitidy in the air at 35 to 40 degrees.  That is what my dealer says.
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2005, 09:38:58 pm »
surely there is enough heat generated from the saw / muffler hanging out in the saw case to prevent freezing in the 25 degree and above range......

just my guess....

I ran my 350 at +15 and didnt have any problems, but the humidity was near 20%, which is like nothing....
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2005, 11:08:08 pm »
32 degree air going 100 mph is 32 degrees. :P

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2005, 06:36:08 am »
so just to sum up - I can keep my 372 and don't need to go to the missus and justify buying a 575???
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2005, 08:18:29 am »
from what I gathered reading what everyone else is posting, the 372 is a keeper, the 575 has a lot to prove yet
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2005, 08:35:48 am »
To sum it up, I like the 372 better than the 575, but I think it`s too early to pen the 575`s obituary and when we do, let`s base it on fact, not supposition.

I really can`t imagine what Cedarman`s dealer is talking about and I`d like to remind logger`s dealer that air at 35° to 45° holds less moisture than air at 70° so the total amount of moisture in the air is lower at cooler temps. Somes saws, most notably some Stihls, had severe problems with water ingestion when cutting in deep snow. I haven`t seen nor heard of this problem with the 575 but welcome the opportunity for an education if anyone has any credible examples of a problem.

I`ll have to take a picture showing the carb arrangement and it`s proximity to the engine for those of you not familiar with it. Unfortunately with the hours I`m putting in, it may not be right away.

I agree with jjmk98k`s statement.

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2005, 08:41:34 am »
Ok I am some what confused with all this rev limiter stuff maybe someone can clear this up for me. I may be wrong but if the 575’s limited to 13,600 and you have taken it down below 13,600 with a tach and turned it back up to13,600. I understand at a free rev it’s going to hit the rev limiter and possibly get poor economy but I would think it should come OFF the limiter as soon as it hits the wood and you start working it rite? I don’t think riching up the carb to 13,300 on a stock 575 is going to help any thing unless the saw is pulling 13,300 in the wood witch I highly doubt, if it is you need to cut racker’s or sharpen your chain.
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2005, 09:30:47 am »
As far as the whole winter/low temp usage issue, I think it may have more to do with carb icing than fuel icing.  There's a low pressure spot at the carb intake, and lower pressure air is cooler and more prone to atmospheric condensation, ( this can be demonstrated if you look at the top side of the wings of an F-16 or 15 when they climb out of level flight at a high rate of speed, there's a low pressure zone behind the wing, and you get a cloud that forms) and if it's cold enough, that condensation will freeze.  This is why you have carb heaters on planes.  The fuel shouldn't freeze because you've got Prist, or some other addative in it, but the carb will freeze up on it's own, regardless of moisture in the fuel.

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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2005, 10:06:47 am »
Dealer said Husky recommends the heating kit for operation at below 40 degrees.  Will call him again today for more details.
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Re: Husky 372 vs. 575
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2005, 10:13:34 am »
 I think, and it's just my mechanics logic going to work here, that since the carb is attached to the head, there should be enough heat soak from the engine to keep the carb well warm enough at anything above 0 degrees.  I would also suspect that ambient air around the carb would be warmed by the engine heat as well.  If its snowing and the saw ingests a good amount of snow... thats another issue and one I feel no way qualified to discuss.  but my logic still says the engine heat would make any snow that gathers around the carb to melt.

I know the saw is sucking in some air, but we're not talking a 454 with a blower and dual quads...

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