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Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« on: March 15, 2005, 07:03:44 pm »
How would you do, do you think?

For the Younger fellas, the 1925 test.

For Guys like Noble and Tom and Staples we have the 1908 test ;D


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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 07:15:54 pm »
Huh?  I stopped at "A horse of this kind should carry a 160-pound man with 50 pounds of equipment an average of _____ miles per day for 20 days each month. "  What if the poor horse has to carry a 170-pound woman??? :-\

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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 07:27:44 pm »


  A bigger horse?   ???
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 07:29:24 pm »
Chet obviously played hooky when they were offering the "man school" that my husband attended...

Man school = "Man, I shouldn'ta said that..."

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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 07:31:00 pm »
Ada, you woudn't believe the photos I came across last week. Remember the retirement?  :D  They still all exist.  :)
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 07:33:45 pm »
Ada,
I used to like dat man show on TV.   :)  Only da wife wouldn't let me watch it.   :'(
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 07:35:13 pm »
Jeff... YIKES!

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 07:36:39 pm »
 

   :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 10:20:39 pm »
Elementary, my dear Watson. smiley_mickey
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 10:32:22 pm »
How'd ya do there Tex? :)
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 10:58:48 pm »
Looks like I'd make a better Forest Ranger than a typist. I was able to a least get a couple questions right on this test. Even though I was quessin'  :D
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2005, 07:02:13 am »
"A seasoned man on moderately rough trails can carry about _____ pounds on his back on a five-days' walking trip. "

Um...

I just want to know what a "Seasoned man" is...

Are we supposed to be seasoning them?

Anyone got any preferred recipes? 

Or should I be throwing peppercorns and a bay leaf in with his bath water and hoping???

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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2005, 07:07:12 am »
wheres the answers?
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2005, 08:00:52 am »
wheres the answers?

You provide the answers...
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2005, 08:15:21 am »
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You provide the answers...
yea i knew that was coming

heres the one i had problems with:
9. An 800-pound pack mule will in an emergency, without injury, carry _____ pounds for 5 miles over trails with slopes not exceeding 20 per cent

interesting, to say the least
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2005, 10:00:08 am »
DanG Red, that's easy.  The question clearly states it is an 800 lb pack mule.  So it must be able to carry 800 lbs or they would have called it something else  :D :D :D ;D 8) 8) :P
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2005, 10:40:22 am »
:D it never stops here does it? :D
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2005, 11:03:18 am »
I dunno, OWW. :P  My one ton truck is rated at 7400 lbs.  I figger the 800 pound mule should be good for about 2800. :o ::) :D :D
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Re: Take a real Forest Rangers Test
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2005, 11:26:34 am »
Dang, I like your figuring.  That mule should also weigh close to 2000lbs also if we are going by truck standards. ;D :D 8)
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 11:34:14 am »
The mule question is simple, any mule man will tell you that you load the mule till he turns, looks at you, and in Mule says "Uh uh, boss, ain't gonna carry that".  They are sometimes a heck of a lot smarter than the guy doing the packing.

Uh, Jeff, boss man, since we ain't used mules or horses in 50 years, some a that stuff is relegated to history, and as such, needs a historical answer.   Most of them ol' boys are dead, and the knowledge went with them.  About half of it is still usable, on that I did ok, the rest is non-pertinent to the modern world.  Would that it were, since mules and horses leave less impact on the land than the 4-wheelers, JD 550's, pickups and such that we use now.

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Farmerdoug, when my family raised mules back in Missouri we had some weight well over 1200 pounds, them 800 pound mules must be from them northern states where the forage is slim in winter months.
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2005, 09:05:00 pm »
I need my father-in-law to answer the first part.  He still remembers how to do the big 16 or 20 horse, I think... maybe more, combine hitches.  Pretty cool pictures if you ever see them.  The rest of it I did pretty well, not real sure how many time keepers I would need for the fire though.
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2005, 09:46:47 pm »
Son Chris worked for a hunting guide in Montana one season.  Being a “trainee”, his job was mostly running mule trains in and out of the Bob Martial Wilderness Area.  It took a day in and a day out.  Something like 15 trips with a string of 8 mules to bring the camp back out at the end of the season.

He said they had one HUGE mule that was slow and gentle as a milk cow.  Anytime they had a heavy client,  they’d put him on this mule.
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LUMBERING
45 to 50. By what unit measure are the following forest products commonly sold?
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2005, 10:36:11 pm »

No fair!  No fair!!  Tranger actually WROTE both tests!! 
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2005, 10:51:10 pm »
pretty neat stuff, the "hewn railroad ties" shows why the men weighed 160 lbs :)
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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2005, 11:05:39 pm »

To think that this was less than 100 years ago.  How much has changed in that time.........
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2005, 08:20:23 am »
does anybody have a copy of a modern forestry test?

does it have things like walking off plots and the likes?
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2005, 09:14:48 pm »
I know the correct answers to about fifteen, can guess at another ten or fifteen, and the rest is pure  ???

The ones on Forestry, Wood, Lumbering and Lands are pretty easy - although most eastern (colonial states) surveyors wouldn't have a clue on section calculations.   Everything here is through land grant and chain of title by metes and bounds.
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2005, 05:24:23 pm »

"does anybody have a copy of a modern forestry test?"

Remember in the early 1900s there were no forestry schools.  This type of test was the only way to determine the knowledge and abilities of somebody applying for a job.

Nowadays you have to have a 4-year college degree to apply for a Forester job, and most places require a 2-year technical school degree for technician positions.  Employers know that a job applicant with those degrees already has been tested for the knowledge to do the entry level job for them.

So there's no modern forestry test comparable to those earlier ones. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2005, 07:08:11 pm »
About the only place you might get a hold of a modern forestry test would be at your State Registered Professional Forester Association or Certification testing for Forest Technicians. And probably only available from someone who retained it after writing it. I've taken forestry school tests where you had to turn in the test questions with your name written on it. Tests at forestry schools however would likely be more designed to test a specific subject like Ecology, Forest Fire Management, Stand Dynamics etc... and would not be as broad as a test presented in this thread.

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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2010, 06:38:12 am »
I thought I would bump this up just because it was the thread I was looking at to make sure the path for attachments was configured correctly after the server move.  If you have not done so, check out the attachments in the first post. they are kinda interesting :)
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2010, 11:12:38 am »
 The first section was right up my alley.  ;D Things in the pack animal department have not changed in a while I guess.
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