I 've gotta look up that thread... yes I pretty much just need to get the temp. up and control the humidity, but the more I think about it, having full controls of the system would be a good thing to plan from the beginning, rather than to want them later. Do you guys know of any standardized plans that are designed specifically for this method? Or pretty much am I just talking about a standard kiln chamber with different "moveing parts" than DH kilns and such? Who would be a good resource for the controls,vents, etc. that I will need? I can take care of all the standard plumbing/heating stuff like a modeene(spelling) or hydronic heat exchanger.