Author Topic: NEW FIRE TRUCK (Read 2477 times)

Engineer · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2005, 02:33:00 pm »

Nice lookin' rig, Will.

You gonna bring that monster to the State Convention this year? If it ain't in Newport again, we'll be there. My department is about 5 years away from getting a new rig - we swap 'em out every 20 years without fail, and our oldest one is a 1988 American Eagle 1000/1000 pumper that's won Best Appearing at States about four times. Almost too nice to get rid of it.

Hope that thing has CAFS on it. We won't get a new truck without it. Our newest front-line rig is a 2001 International/BME 4x4 with a 750 gallon tank, 50 gallons of foam and a 1000 gpm CAFS system. Everybody else is just support for it. Fully involved car fire is out in about 20 seconds, literally.

bull · « **Reply #21 on:** January 16, 2005, 04:39:17 pm »

There goes your tax bill......... I remember when there were more cows than people in Barnet VT.... How can you afford that cadilliac..... Nice place and great people. Haven't been there since 1980. stayed at a small church in West Barnet on a church fellowship retreat. Bought raw milk at a Farm Just up the road,because they group only brought that 1 % junk. They had a nice heard of Jersey's....

bull · « **Reply #22 on:** January 16, 2005, 04:43:13 pm »

Our Fire Dept Just ordered a new Quint W/ a 100' Stick and every other gadget you can think of $600,000.00 should be delivered in the fall. We also have a new 3,000,000.00 Station under construction. Should be finished in July...

wiam · « **Reply #23 on:** January 16, 2005, 05:21:31 pm »

Frank, actually it is only a 5 packer with packs in all but the drivers.

BW, it would not fit in our old one either. No CAFS, just NAFS on two handlines.

Engineer, I think convention is in Rutland this year.I don't know if a new truck will get us there or not. Two years ago I tried to get a muster team together and a bunch said yes, but too many said too much time after practicing for 2 months. If you can't tell I'm kind of bitter about it. I know CAFS is great but I had a hard sell.

bull, FEMA is paying $180,000

. That would have Barnet Center and Ray Nelson.

Will

Don_Papenburg · « **Reply #24 on:** January 16, 2005, 06:09:07 pm »

What is CAFS ? NAFS? I know what foam is

BW_Williams · « **Reply #25 on:** January 16, 2005, 06:22:05 pm »

CAFS = compressed air foam system
NAFS = normally aspairatted foam system
Will, we have one of the best(in my non-biased opinion) NAFS nozzle manufactures right here on the old FF. Sent Kirk Allen a PM and see if'n he would loan ya'll one of his first strikes for a demo. BWW
PS maybe we ought to ask Jeff for a Fire catagory!

Don_Papenburg · « **Reply #26 on:** January 16, 2005, 07:09:18 pm »

So how does CAFS work ? I am guessing that the normal asp foam gets the foam agent sucked into the water stream via a ventura in the water stream.

BW_Williams · « **Reply #27 on:** January 16, 2005, 09:30:02 pm »

CAFS has an air compressor to add air at the pump, your correct about NAFS, there are several different ways to do it, one is an eductor at the pump that uses a venturi to siphon the foam in, another is an eductor the goes on the end of the hoseline. As with anything related to firefighting, CAFS is very expensive, I believe our slip in unit was around $70K.

Kirk_Allen · « **Reply #28 on:** January 17, 2005, 08:39:33 am »

Wiam, Congrats on the new Rig.

Give the folks down in Norwich a call and ask them about their nozzles. They have been using Vindicators for several years now and can fill you in with an non-biased opinion

By the way, our nozzles are the ONLY nozzle currently recieving Dual ISO credit, as a playpipe and a foam nozzle

You can download the documents from our web site. http://www.1ststriketech.com/Testimony.htm

OK, no more sales pitch

wiam · « **Reply #29 on:** January 17, 2005, 06:26:25 pm »

On our new truck we have a Foampro 1600. This is connected to two handlines. This system uses a high pressure electric pump to put class A foam on the pressure side of the fire pump. We got quotes of $12k to $30K to have CAFS built into a truck.

Kirk, is there some way to try these nozzles in house??

Will

theonlybull · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2005, 07:08:39 pm »

nice looking truck ( other then the color

)
our "new truck" is now 6 years old.... and it's been the biggest lemon around..... i don't have time to type all the problems, but i can tell ya, we'll never have another frieghtliner/cummin's combo again......

those IH's make nice lookin fire trucks. the next department down from us as one, nice working/lookin truck.

enjoy the truck and the new hall.... some of us can only dream

FiremanEd · « **Reply #31 on:** January 17, 2005, 07:36:39 pm »

Nice ride Wiam.

You'll like the E-One, they build nice engines. I think you'll like the chassis, we have 5 tankers on older International chassis and never had a minutes trouble with any of them that I know of. Congrats and enjoy!!!

On Kirk's vindicators, WOW. Kirk came down and met with some of our guys, gave a couple demo's and we bought something in the area of 20 of them. Anyway, as a company officer it's the 1st nozzle off my engine on anything more than debris. (And I was/am a big TFT fan) Great nozzle Kirk.

Congrats again Wiam.

Kevin_H. · « **Reply #32 on:** January 17, 2005, 08:05:21 pm »

This is our newest, a 2004 peterbuilt with a 2650gal tank and a 1000 gpm midship pump.

Captain · « **Reply #33 on:** January 18, 2005, 03:35:59 am »

We've got one coming....$435,000 of E-One Typhoon Class Rescue Pumper. Going to be behind delivery due to the hurricane season in Florida .

Hey Jon/Wiam, has American Rural Fire Equipment in Williamstown VT changed their name? VTec or something??

Captain

wiam · « **Reply #34 on:** January 18, 2005, 06:13:38 pm »

Captain yes they are now VTEC. They do a lot of poly bodies on their trucks. Have heard of financial problems when building trucks. Same on hurricanes with ours. We were sopposed to have it the end of November.

Kevin_H. nice looking truck other than the color

I like the looks of the Vindicator. We have mostly TFTs but we have not purchased nozzles for the new truck yet and hope to try some others before buying.

Captain · « **Reply #35 on:** January 19, 2005, 05:08:14 am »

When I was in Barre Town, we bought the first piece that American Rural Fire Equipment made in 1993, a Freightliner FL80 with a 1500GPM Darley and Hale FoamPro. It had a 750 gallon tank. What a difference from our front line 1974 International Loadstar at the time.

Captain

Tom Vorac · « **Reply #36 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:07:40 pm »

Howdy,
Can go a little off topic and ask a question for the group? Does anyone have any experience with slip on fire units for pickup trucks? I am looking for plans to do a home made unit and would appreciate any help or advise.
Thanks
Tom V

timberfaller390 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 12, 2010, 05:50:31 pm »

That is SWEET.

Ron Scott · « **Reply #38 on:** February 12, 2010, 06:10:53 pm »

Tom Vorac,

Are you near a US Forest Service Ranger Station on State DNR Fire Station? They are well familiar with and use pick up slip on pumper units.

Captain · « **Reply #39 on:** February 12, 2010, 06:30:37 pm »

Tom, are you referring to a "skid load" with a tank and pump, often a hose reel, for wildland firefighting? If that is the case, then YES.

Captain

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